How To Get To Heaven When You Die

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by XFRODOBAGGINSX, Feb 25, 2005.

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  1. freakwentflyer

    freakwentflyer Member

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    Wrong. There are communities throughout the world and the US that have well balanced students, with no religion in the class. My school in England had no religion in the class and we had no problems like that.

    The problem you discribe, is far more complicated than you think. These "lost" students are having problems because they have no balance. In America we live in an extremely materialistic society, reinforced by advertising, the music industry, pop stars, sport stars, and even our government. Even your mainstream christianity would rather focus the blame on abortionists and gays, than to lead a crusade against the "evils of unrestrained capitalism".
    Then, mix that pressure on the youth with the fact that the only spritual understanding they are exposed to, is dogmatic, controlling and makes no sense. Just look at the post by MagicMedicine. Religion turns so many people off so badly that some may turn to the opposite extreme.
    Those that call themselves Satanists, are the by-products of religious dogma and a lack of natural spiritualism (love) in their lives. Often because their parents were either not around, to busy chasing material persuits, or too busy kissing ass to an ancient hebrew made up god (as my sister and her husband do).

    When you say, people who are completely void of a spirituality with miserable and chaotic lives are that way because they aren't christians, that's like saying people who are dieing of thirst are that way because they don't drink CocaCola. All they need is (natural) water. If I was dieing of thirst and there was nothing but Coke to offer, I'd drink it too. Although the additives (dogma) might not be so good for me.
    I think I've beaten this horse enough.
    Good luck. Peace.
     
  2. XFRODOBAGGINSX

    XFRODOBAGGINSX Banned

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    Hmm, let's see. They took God out of the schools and now kids are shooting each other. In the 1800's the kids used to take their guns to school. It was common. How many school shootings were there then? None because they followed the way of the Lord. Your flawed analogy of coca-cola is off base. It is NOT like saying that those who don't drink coca-cola will die of thirst, it is like saying those who don't drink water will die of thirst. We need water to live, just like we need the word of God to live by. They put sex ed in the schools and within a year or two teen pregnancy skyrocketed.

    Here you go:

    Joh 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

    Joh 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

    Joh 4:11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?

    Joh 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
    (KJV)

    Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
    (KJV)


    You said:

    "Even your mainstream christianity would rather focus the blame on abortionists and gays, than to lead a crusade against the "evils of unrestrained capitalism".

    Read the papers, watch television, note the videos, tune in the evening news, listen to the rap music, see the adult examples everywhere around you. Children are glutted on mental and emotional junk food. "If you want to destroy a country," former British education secretary Sir Keith Joseph said, "you debauch its currency." And he added: "The way to destroy a society is to debauch the children." "Debauch," according to Webster's, means "to lead away from virtue or excellence." That is being done with a vengeance today. Much is said about juvenile delinquency... it will come back to haunt us.

    Yes abortion is murder. Yes being gay is a sin. Yes capitalism is great. You don't like capitalism, you must hate this country because it is a captialist nation. That is what made this country rich. If communism is so much better, move to the poverty stricken China, former soviet union, or any of those wasted countries. America is awsome! Hate america if you want, I love America.

    Praise God for God fearing men and women like George W. Bush, Condolisa Rice, & Alan Keys.
     
  3. Colours

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    Why does your God make people gay then, if he knows its irreversable. Why did God damn the Jews? If God is all knowing, he must have known that Jesus would pull out the Jewish beliefs by the roots. Or maybe he just made a mistake. Why was God so present in the past, but never during our life-time? What makes you think your religion is any more truthful than all of the religions before it? There are hundreds of religions; why is christianity the only right one? is there something less appealing about ANY other religion? no, you were born a christian, so you identify with christianity. I just cant believe there are such weak minded people in the world. Religion, creating your beliefs for you. "yes abortion is murder. Yes being gay is a sin", 'because God tells me it is.' Why do you need a guide to see what is right or wrong, or to be happy in the world. Im a good person, i see the good in others, and i am living my life, all without the help of God.
     
  4. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Yeah, back in the good old days of polio and racism. Sure, white males could get an education, but now that we have science, we don't need that fiction. Science has cured polio, god has done nothing, because he doesn't exist.


    Oh no not rap music!!! Teen pregnancy was much more common in the 19th century, and more women died giving birth. So much for the good old days.

    So is a miscarrige involuntary manslaughter? You really must understand women.

    You know that passage about a man shall not lie with another man is right across from a passage about stoning disobediant children? Kinda funny that you take this stuff so seriously...


    It's aight.

    If you don't like apple pie are you a commi?

    China has the largest growing economy on earth.


    Americas ok, but patriotism is a shallow, caveman like concept... kinda like religion.

    Who kicked out his gay daughter. What a wonderful man. [​IMG]
     
  5. Mr MiGu

    Mr MiGu King of the Zombies

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    So not only are his actions acceptable, but youre actually thanking god for a man thats responsible for thousands of deaths, meanwhile you condemn people that wish to express their love to people of the same sex.

    I dont get it.
     
  6. freakwentflyer

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    OMG. You truly do see EVERYTHING in black and white. You just did in politics the same thing you do in theology. Where in what I said, do I hate America, and capitalism (which I am an American capitalist) and prefer communism.
    Don't you see the dangers in all extremes? Even though I believe in free enterprise and freedom, I am cautious of it's down sides and tendency to be abused. And you have a very wrong and narrow understanding of why there is a decay of our society. And I doubt you will ever understand my whole CocaCola and water thing. It's like you can't see color or something.

    That's enough, I'm out of here.
    Good luck. Hope you get a front row seat in heaven. Maybe even a backstage pass.
     
  7. XFRODOBAGGINSX

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    And I think that it is you who cannot see in color. You are blinded by your unbelief in what God's word says. I just explained the coca-cola thing to you and you didn't understand. Who is blind here? You cut down capitalism and everything that our great country was built on, it's morals, it's political system and it's economic system and you expect me to believe that you love this country?

    Good bye. Hope your communist country treats you better than america. Send us a post card, if they will let you.
     
  8. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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    why do we have to love our country? its just like having spirit for your high school football team...its silly.
     
  9. Becknudefck

    Becknudefck Senior Member

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    frodobaggins, its because of people like you that drove me away from religion and taught me that God doesnt exist. at the age of 13, thank you.
     
  10. MagicMedicine

    MagicMedicine Sailor Scent

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    Taken from the Washington Post:

    "After years of careful research and study, Harvard has finally made it's stance on religion clear. With the help of scientists and field professionals, it has been made fact that God does not exsist. Their main explanation for the controversial stance is in a statement made by John Keens stating "Proof that there is no God: XFRODOBAGGINSX. We are certain that if there was a God, he would not let a man of such ignorance with such a closed mind live."
     
  11. daisymae

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    Here's a thought.....if I am going to hell just for not being a chump, and "Satan" will be toasting marshmallows on my ass for all eternity to punish me, doesn't that mean that satan is on god's payroll? ;)
     
  12. Children of Bodom

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    Religion is way too contradictory. Fucking lemmings.
     
  13. apple seed

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    why are you preaching to us. what part of freedom of religion means any religion, don't you understand? or do you do you need me to explan it to to you? there are plenty of your type around, we don't need anymore of you. you have not idae how mad poeple like you make me. i get so agery i what to shove a bible down your throght, so you can see your little jesus a little sooner than you thought. it is not your place to juge how we live our lives. and in the end it will not be you how you juge yours. it is nice how you are trying to help but next time you feel the need to do so DON'T. and give us some peace. i don't whant ot hear it. i have heard it to many dame times to care anymore. jest shut up and go away.
     
  14. MrRee

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    How it could possibly be that the natural birth of a child into the world of nature could be deemed so un-natural that it is a sin. Yes folks ~ christians say that every baby is a sinner because it is born!!

    Yet birth is natural. There is no option, no choice, no alternative. It is clearly "God's way". And so is death. No other way out of here try though you might.
    But christians are so obsessed with evil that they can't see beauty in human nature, god in human nature, happiness in human nature. It all has to be evil evil evil to fit in with their twisted way of thinking ~ evil.
    Not unusual then the the name "satan" is mentioned more in the bible than does the name "god".
    Says it all, really.
     
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    God impregnated Mary without her knowing it. Isn't that rape? :eek:
     
  16. Mr MiGu

    Mr MiGu King of the Zombies

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    Mr MiGu King of the Zombies

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    i disagree
     
  18. XFRODOBAGGINSX

    XFRODOBAGGINSX Banned

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    I agree with you for once.
     
  19. Samhain

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    if all your going to do is bump this thread, I think it might as well be closed
    S
     
  20. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Don't listen to her, shes a witch!!!!

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