How much pot in a joint.

Ive never smoked or rolled a joint, its always been pipes for me. I have been waiting for a friend to get me a peice for months and it looks like its going to be at least another month until I get it. I'm gonna start smoking joints for the time being for a bit of variety. My question is how much pot do you usually use in a joint using regular size papers? I'm thinking about a gram or three quarters of a gram, is that close?

 

not sure exact measurement, but i put in about the size of a pencil. its not alot, but fatty's seem so wasteful to me, so i mix it with some tobacco, and roll em slightly skinny...

 

i usually put about a thrid to a quarter of a gram and mix it half with tobacco.
however american weed standard seems to indicate that a standard join requires .5 grams of weed.

and dont flame us for suggesting tobacco (anyone who feels that way), ive smoked enough joints to know that its simply a better smoke in a joint for me and my peers. but if your affraid of addiction (which is not a problem unless you wish to smoke that many joints) then you can take your precautions.

and use a carboard filter, you dont have a piece so you wont be able to do anything with the roach if you roll it american style

 

^Forgot to add that. I use cardboard as well. business cards work great.

 

Does a joint rolled with tobacco burn slower and more even than one without? What kind of papers are ppls favorites? I have a bunch of Bamboo brand papers, and the last joint I roller burned too fast and uneven. Might be the way I rolled it though, I don't know. I am still learning.

 

I'm going to be using the pen roll technique when you take the paper, wrap it around a pen, stick the filter/raoch at the end and fill it up with pot. Does anyone know how well this works? Or should I use a different technique?

 

short answer: it DOESNT work.

long answer: it works, if you used disgustingly thick papers (like an envelope) to give it structure, or if you have an exceedingly steady hand for that kind of thing. rolling papers are EXTREMELY thin and fragile, like tissue paper, and it would be very tough to stuff it with pot without mashing it up or tearing it or both. trying to do this will only end in tears....

you should just learn to roll a joint. have someone teach you. read some online instructions...the cardboard filter works great. tobacco is okay if you smoke it anyway, but i dont like it. its only really needed if you have really good (sticky and somewhat fresh) pot that is likely to go out on its own before you're even halfway done with the joint. i think tobacco ruins the flavor of good pot, though, so i usually just smoke good pot out of pipes or bongs and lower grade dried up middies and such out of bowls or joints or blunts. if you want to put tobacco in a joint, it can make it burn more evenly, if you're able to get the pot broken up in such a way that you can actually mix it with the tobacco. pot breaks up entirely different than tobacco is cut; it just seems to come out with one side of the joint having mostly tobacco and one having mostly pot, when i try it like this. also, the unfiltered tobacco smoke can make most people quite dizzy, even if they're used to smoking cigarettes (unless they're used to smoking rollies)

but everyone likes something different, so try it if you want. i just dont like it personally. trekker, tobacco really doesn't make it burn THAT much better, unless the pot wont burn well on its own, like i said. but what would slow down your burn and make it more even would be a tobacco-based paper or blunt wrap, which can be absolutely terrific. if you want something a bit more like a joint, try golden wraps brand papers....i suggest cognac, coconut, or chocolate flavor.....its just like a normal pack of papers, slightly bigger and a bit thicker, but it's all light golden brown and tastes different. not very great taste, but it DOES slow down the burn, compared to a joint. also, theres a product called cyclone blunts, which some gas stations and headshops carry. its a pre-rolled cone shaped joint made of blunt wrap type of material, flavored, with a cardboard filter already in place. they come in a cardboard tube because they're empty and could easily be crushed otherwise. they come with a thin wooden poker so you can make sure that everything gets in there ok. good product, but theres only one layer of tobacco wrap on it, so it burns faster than most blunts and doesnt taste as strong.....if you're not opposed to something a bit more heavy duty, try a blunt shell (broken, filled with pot, re-rolled....like a phillies blunt, a white owl, swisher sweet, optimo, etc.) or a blunt wrap (these also more closely resemble a rolling paper, only huge and much better tasting than a golden wrap, with a variety of nice flavors)....the big problem with blunts is making sure you have no stems....tobacco wraps, while thicker than paper, tear easily from stems. also, a shell has to be moist and fresh enough to roll...it requires a lot of licking, and if you're not used to it licking the outside of a cigar can taste bad. conversely, blunt WRAPS come very fresh in airtight wrappers and are usually TOO soft and most to use immediately without tearing, and these you often need to let sit out for about 20 minutes before rolling them up.

you can put cardboard filters in these, too.

for people that simply can't learn to roll a joint, i suggest a cigarette rolling machine. they come with instructions and are easy to use. be careful though, they're made for tobacco, not pot. it's easy to roll them a bit too tight, then they'll be harder to smoke and might go out before you're ready for them too. you can't use cardboard filters with these.

 

^ Thanks for the shitload of information nesta, I know how to roll American style so I'll just do that.

 

My advice is to just start rolling joints everyday. The more you practice, the better you get. If you don't smoke that many joints, then roll one, take the pot out, and roll another.

The way I roll them is with only pot, no tobacco. I roll it up with my hands, pack it down on both sides with a pen or something, stick a cardboard filter in one end, top off the other end with more pot if I need to, then close it up. Usually turns out to look just like a cigarette.

Joint rolling is a skill and like any other, it takes practice to get good. I say to try a few different methods and pick the one that you like best. But I highly suggest using a cardboard filter, the joint hits much better.

 

just learnt o do it freehand. with or without a filter. try both and see what you like.

My favorite papers are zig zags... type doesn't make a huge difference to me. if there too big for the amount im using, i use a razor and cut em down.

 

i only do joints. i do them with weed only. i suggest you roll them about the same size as a normal cigarette. if you do only weed then put in about 1/2 to 3/4 of a gram (depending on how dense the weed is).

use kingsize rizla papers. if you can't roll then just cheat and use a pencil. i can roll, but not very well so i've got a pot of tarragon spice and just keep practising with that. lol.

 

IF you are already a tobacco smoker, and you want to learn to roll a joint, just get a pouch of rolling tobacco. most even come with free papers. they're a bit easier to roll than a joint, but its the same basic process and if you can do one, you'll learn to do the other pretty quickly. its also way cheaper than tailor made cigarettes. too bad most of the stuff i tried here tastes like shit, but a lot of people do like them.

 

I usually put a gram or so in. I have king-size papers though, so they get to be pretty fat. The best way to improve it imho is to use a chillum. You can smoke it till there ain't nothing left, without a roach clip. A chillum will set you back $9, but it's a good investment.

 

you're probably talking about a glass bat or a metal one-hitter, not an actual chillum. chillums are large, usually made of stone, clay, or wood. they are cone-shaped usually, and can get quite a large number of people stoned with one pack because they usually hold quite a lot. for example, i have a wooden chillum (not quite traditional as it doesnt need a chillum stone, rather it's got a bowl carved into it) with an east indian religious icon on it. the face of some deity....

often you place gauze on the end of it, dipping it in water before smoking to protect your hands and mouth from hot ash. a chillum can shit on you like nothing else. its probably the most sanitary (yet primitive) style of pipe available, as instead of holding it directly to your mouth you clasp your fingers around it and cup your hand to make a mouthpeice.

a chillum usually has a simple funnel shape to it. in order to keep your gear in it you need to insert a chillum stone, which is a stone or peice of clay with notches cut out of it so it plugs up the pipe enough to keep the pot on top but allow smoke to pass around it. basically a filter.

sadhus, homeless holy men of india, smoke chillums to assist in attaining religious ecstacies, usually filled with a mix of tobacco and charas, a type of dark black hashish made by hand in india, nepal, and surrounding areas.
not all sadhus partake, but then sadhu is a somewhat general term, and many different sects and disciplines exist. some wander naked, some wear clothes. some have varying dietary restrictions, etc. most allow their hair to tangle into dreadlocks.


its interesting to note that marijuana grows in this area, and probably among the best locations is in the area of the ganges - also called the river ganga. the british eventually made jamaica a colony, and they didn't receive political independence (sort of...) until 1962. similarly the british controlled india for quite some of the same periods of time, giving up control of it in 1947. i don't know if it's true, but i've heard that the former black slaves of jamaica were introduced to the ideas of dreadlocked hair and cannabis use for religious purposes by indian indentured servants, some of which may have been previously or later in life sadhus themselves. it's thought that the term ganja comes from phrases assosciated with the holy river ganges and it's surrounding valley.

that out of the way, what i see most people refer to as "chillums" bear little to no resemblance of traditional chillums except for their straight shape. they are far smaller and easier to break, they are smoked more like a cross between a pipe and a cigarette than like a chillum, and they are usually only suited for solitary or tandem use rather than for a large group, though i have a glass "chillum" with a large enough bowl pack to smoke up a few heads, and larger still glass chillums do exist that can be used in a more traditional manner.

what i'm guessing you mean though for holding joints is a one hitter/bat like one of these



a good chillum will cost probably 10-40 bucks unless it's a large glass peice. a one hitter will run about 3-12 dollars if it's metal, and 10-60 dollars if its a small glass "chillum"

 

A hemostat only costs $5 and works great.

 

well, yeah, if you like to burn your lips

 

i dont smoke, but ive always thought the best sized join was as much as you could physically force into it.

cheech and chong, anyone? lol

 

sure jojo but not everybody has that kind of money, and if they are getting the shit cheap, then they probably do


plus , for me at least, rolling a joint with like .6-.8 of chronic is fun and great, but when .2-.3 gets me nice and stoned out of a piece i'd rather do the 2nd

 

hehe, the nuns!

 

I roll big spliffs in hemp paper using a gram of ground bud, and I use those rolling tips. Cutting up a business card works the same way.