How much is Trump really worth?

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by Visexual, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

    TrudginAcrossTheTundra Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    He's worth a lot to those who like to work and produce. Not as much to those who want to mooch off those who do.
     
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  2. lode

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    This isn't accurate. Red States receive the majority of federal aid, while blue states states produce the stuff which gets taxed to support 'em.

    Solved: Why Poor States Are Red and Rich States Are Blue
     
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  3. wilsjane

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    He would either have to admit that he had avoided tax, or admit that he had no tax liability because he had no profit from his businesses.
    Something of a loose, loose situation. :yum::yum::yum:
     
  4. Tyrsonswood

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    Yup.. successful businessman.
     
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  5. wilsjane

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    It is easy to condemn him, but sadly, American businesses are failing every day, resulting in cities ending up like Detroit.
    If he concentrated his term on his manifesto promise to bring back work and stem the flow of capital into China, his term may benefit everyone. Unfortunately, this does not seem to be happening.
     
  6. Tyrsonswood

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    He never meant it to happen.
     
  7. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Yeah, they're producing a lot of evidence about how corrupt he is.
     
  8. scratcho

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    He was a millionaire at EIGHT YEARS OF AGE, courtesy of his crooked, tax evading father. He's never done a lick a' work in his life except work his mouth.
     
  9. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    FTFY
     
  10. Asmodean

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    It would also not neccessarily outweigh the bad consequences connected to how he wants to increase productivity. Like at the expense of the environment for example. And how much is quality of life improved with more jobs but also more polarisation in that society.
     
  11. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    I don't think it's fair to blame Mr Trump for the nasty polarization. It's been building for decades, and looking closely at the actions it becomes more and more evident that the deceit and manipulation (scumbaggery) on the left side of the aisle is primary responsible for promulgating it of late.

    As to the undesired side effects of productivity, yes that does need to be analyzed and taken into consideration.
     
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  12. Asmodean

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    I don't blame Trump alone for it. But he's definitely not trying to decrease it (in fact he's doing the opposite). One thing a proper functioning president would.
     
  13. nudistguyny

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    My parents had a small mom and pop operation ( building- home improvement store) in the Atlantic City area ( of New Jersey) when Trump was building his casino's. My folks knew a number of contractors who supplied materials or labor. But were then screwed by the Trump corporation for not paying. The meme about " you want your money ? Sue me. Is very true. He put a lot of small companies out of operation because he refused to pay them. My folks were one of the lucky ones. They refused to get involved with his building projects.
     
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  14. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    I think he's doing his best to improve the overall condition of the people of the country. Clearly he's not omnipotent nor all-knowing but we see improvement and hope where both were dead prior to his leadership. He stands tall and unwavering against those who prefer our demise. He speaks his mind and resists getting mired in the swamps of bureaucracy. He paves the way to a more responsible and productive society. Maybe he does like to stir the pot, but is that all bad? He seems to be appropriate with it, more or less. All in all, I'm very happy with the results of his presidency thus far.
     
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  15. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    So they really have no first-hand experience.
    Just hearsay.
    Same as the rest of us.
     
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  16. nudistguyny

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    It is already proven that Trump ran two totally different accounting books for the same years. ( That information came out during other court cases.)
    One to get his taxes lowered showing that the value of his properties were low. And then a set of books that showed his property values were very high so that he could get bank loans against them. So he ether committed tax fraud. Or he committed bank loan fraud. That is one of the major reasons why they want to audit his tax returns to see if he did commit fraud . And also to see if that suspected fraud ran over into his political campaign, break federal laws It is also known that Trump has not totally disconnected himself from the Trump Franchise. So he is still collecting a income on his hotels , and other property investments. Which in turn breaks other laws because foreign countries are renting unused rooms and offices as a indirect payment to Trump. And thus could ask for special treatment to their benefit
     
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  18. Asmodean

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    In what way other than economically? How is he trying to decrease polarisation?

    Haha, I'm sorry you see it like that.
    If he actually did all those other things you noted his potstirring might be perceived as less bad. But those things too remain arguable, and the fact is a significant amount of citizens see the presidents potstirring as an excuse and encouragement to actively discriminate. So yes, his potstirring is retardedly bad and inappropriate. More so than that you or me would do it.

    Like when he said those american born and bred politicians with another ethnical background should move to their own countries instead of criticizing stuff in the USA (which is actually their own country)? Seems a prime example.


    Strange. You obviously see things very differently or you place too much importance on the economy (or too less on other aspects of your country's/society's wellbeing)
     
  19. nudistguyny

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    . My parents passed away years ago. But I knew a few of the people that ended up being bankrupt because they supplied the materials and labor and never got paid. I personally knew one person who went to court a number of times for the same case. Every time the Trump lawyer would ask for a extension or a later court date. To the point that he could no longer afford paying his lawyer to keep going to court for him . But then that seemed to be their way of getting the cases dropped. nickle and dime you to death till you can't afford it anymore.
     
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  20. scratcho

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    He is and has always been an asshole and for the likes a'me----I can't understand those willing to defend him. Can anyone list a thing or two that disqualifies him from being a useless human? The poster above says--"so really no first hand experience,"right after given first hand experience! Fortunately for them, they didn't get the REAL first hand experience--they were smart enough not fool around with a stone con man.
     
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