Well, I've recently been to Canada to visit someone dear to me, and I'll be goin' back next month to be with her. Culturally, the area I was in - southern Alberta - was not unlike my other place of residence - northern Wisconsin, which I happen to like. So there's no problem there. The idea of socialized medical care is nice, but ya really do pay for it in taxes. Taxes are certainly much higher in Canada. One of the things I dislike 'bout the States is the fervent nationalism commonly found, but Canada's every bit as bad in this respect. I guess that's every country. One thing that really troubles me 'bout Canada is how they suck up to the British monarchy. For a foreigner to become a Canadian citizen, they must recite an oath that even mentions Queen Elizabeth II. For this I'll never be a citizen of Canada. Oaths themselves are unacceptable to me, but a pledge to the Queen worse yet. Overall, I think the benefits of living in the States and Canada's 'bout tit-for-tat. Both have their good and not-so-good. But like I said, someone very special to me is in Canada, so that's my real reason for goin'.
ewww.... i was there for queen's day or whatever it's called... i must say it's kinda odd that she's so celebrated and on their money and all, since the queen just visited there recently for the first time in like 12 yrs or something? just seems so odd... maybe us americans try to be too i individualistic since we did have a revolution to separate ourselves from the british.. but yeah... i don't get this aspect of canadian culture/govt. and i didn't realize you have to recite an oath that mentions the queen...
n order ot become an american citizen you gotta pledge and oath aswell...but they're getting rid of that monarch refernce in the pledge, its just an outdated law no ones bothered to amend yet because we're lazy, jstu like sodomy being illegal in the states
That's right, the States make ya recite an oath, too...something I'd never do no matter where/(from where) I was tryin' to go/(get away). All that aside, I do love Canada, though. Had a real good time there and look forward to goin' back.
When I first read this thread, I thought it referred to how many Americans went to Canada in the 60's and 70's to dodge the draft. My answer would've been, "Not enough!" But, I see now, it's about a quality of life thingy. O.K. But, ONE BIG QUESTION, PLEASE! Is it true that there is a sub-culture-- a sizable proportion of your population, I understand-- that actually worships the pagan BEAVER GOD? Down south, as you northers say, the rumor is rife, spread by every caraibou, moose or bear-hunting expedition to The Frosty North. Can this be true? Beavers are highly-evolved tree-gnawers and possess legendary building talents, but do you Maple-Leaf-wearing snow-shoers really believe they are worthy of deification? Are did I just pry the lid from Canada's basest secret?
you'd understand if you would have ever experienced their awsome telepathing powers first hand. they can make you do the silliest things, like shoot your buddy(hunting accident, I think not.) they also are the ones responsible for making the birds try and freak drivers out by nosebombing in front of cars trying to make them swerve. If you don't want to end up chin up in quicksand you'll respect and even worship beavers if it comes to that...
I think that just the impression you'd get from watching major media. In reality, no one gives a flying fuck about the monarchy except little old granmothers who idolize her for her good posture. I don't think the Brits even give a shit about her, she and all the rest of em are useless. In Canada we also have a Governor General who is supposed to be the Canadian representative of the queen. She's just as useless. She goes on lavish vacations and tours on tax-payer money while contributing nothing. There was quite the quarrel here when her term ended, cause people were saying "why bother getting a new one?" As for the oath, it doesn't really bother me. It's just words. It's not like the queen will ever call you to duty to fulfill your oath. She's too drunk to know what's going on.
Selfsustaining-- I KNEW something wasn't quite right up in Hudson Bay land! So THAT'S why they are stamped on your nickels!
first of all just about everything irongoth said is either wrong or fabricated, french is a mandatory subject but in highschool I only needed 1 credit then i dropped it and never actually learnt it taxes can be high but the doller is lower who would want to bear arms in canada anyway? and the police have that right to search and seizure but its never used unless theres reason for it to be used. our PM never said any such thing about 9/11 and ive been to many rallies and freedom marches where the cops havent done a thing but stand there and make sure it wasnt violent, as well we all smoke reefer on parliament hill every year thousands of us and the police never do a thing about that either, if our government hated america, we would stay neutral in all the other wars (afghanistan, etc) the americans are in, not to mention our relief efforts in iraq and plans to send troops over (not that, that makes me proud, since im against this war anyway) and jobs dont pay bad at all, I work at a call center for 21$ an hour which translates into 17.80$ an hour american and, a call center job is far from a high paying job.
Jesus promises me eternal life; what does the BEAVER GOD offer? Eternal bark? Eternal water? A warm lodge come ice-up? It might just be worth it.
Different strokes for different folks. I'm sorry to hear that your tenure of 27 years here wasn't a good one, IronGoth. Personally I love Canada. I was going to move to the US a few years ago (work related to my career) and just as I was getting ready to make the move, unfortunately, 9/11 happened and all the immigration walls came tumbling down. My wife could not get a working permit of ANY kind for at least 2 years after that and, by that time, we had both come to the conclusion that the only "Bush" WE could relate to was of the green variety. Personally, I'm glad (as is my wife) that we stayed here. So now we live wayy up north on an isolated island in northern BC and love it here. We have lived in Calgary, Vancouver, Toronto, Regina, Chicago, Los Angeles and they all have a certain character that appeals to some and not to others. As for French, I have never studied French (I grew up in Regina), my daughter has never studied French (she lives in Calgary) and I have friends in Vancouver whose kids are NOT studying French. Now, that seems to cover a LOT of territory and a few eras as well. Peace!!