How important is freedom of expression?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by fibre1, Apr 14, 2008.

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  1. fibre1

    fibre1 Banned

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    Ephebophilia/ephebosexuality has never been considered a paraphilia, homophilia/homosexuality was considered a paraphilia, 'infantophilia' is a paraphilia:


    -from Wiki.-

    Related terms

    Ephebophilia, also known as hebephilia, is the condition of being sexually attracted primarily or exclusively to adolescents. These terms are used in contrast with pedophilia; however, in jurisdictions where the legal age of consent is higher (like USA and Britain), pedophilia is sometimes used more broadly in a non-medical sense to describe both ephebophilia and attraction to younger children; in effect, any person younger than the legal age of consent. Ephebophilia does not have broad academic acceptance as constituting a paraphilia.
    Pederasty has historically been given sharply different meanings, sometimes referring to male homosexual interactions in general, sometimes to anal sex in general, and sometimes specifically to sex between men and boys. In academic usage the word has still a fourth meaning, referring specifically to the age-structured homosexual interactions practiced in classical Greece between older men and adolescent boys, and by extension to age-structured homosexual interactions in other cultures.
    Lolita syndrome is sometimes used to refer to the attraction to preadolescent females. The term Lolicon is a corrupted abridgment of Lolita complex, it refers to manga-style pornography depicting neotonous female characters. A male equivalent called shotacon was later adapted.
    Nepiophilia, also called infantophilia, is sexual preference for toddlers and infants (usually ages 0–3).[72] Some researchers have suggested a distinction between pedophilia and nepiophilia, especially for same-sex pedophilia (see for example Bernard 1975, 1982; Lautmann 1994), as it is unusual for pedophiles to prefer toddlers. According to Howells 1981;[73] Bernard 1982;[74] McConaghy 1993;[75] Lautmann 1994,[76] male-oriented pedophilia more prevalently blends in with ephebophilia, while female-oriented pedophilia more prevalently blends in with nepiophilia.
     
  2. fibre1

    fibre1 Banned

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    Well you were using it incorrectly then. I don't fit the definition of the word. Educate yourself.
     
  3. lode

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    I'm not trying to censor you. It's better that you confront these kinds of things. And I'm not saying this to be 'mean' or a 'fascist' or because society doesn't understand you. It is a danger to children.

    You have a paraphilia which can put others in danger and I ask you to please consult someone who has experience who can help you so you can establish a normal healthy relationship.
     
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    Re read my statement PLEASE before you spout off indignant little remarks to me. I said it sent of alarm bells that you were a pedophile. I obviously dont KNOW you, but alarm bells. back off.
     
  5. Lady of the Freaks

    Lady of the Freaks Senior Member

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    it's ironic that every time i see fibre1's screenname i think of old people eating bran cereal. :tongue:
     
  6. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    meh, sometimes i wonder if fibre's actually just an alias...



    if so, kudos! :applause:
     
  7. fibre1

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    I don't have a paraphilia, attraction to adolescents isn't listed as a paraphilia as I already said. No-one is 'at risk.'
     
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    I read and understood your remarks, unfortunately you didn't do the same with mine. If you knew the definition of the word pedophile no alarm bells would be going off.
     
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    1. I don't know who edited that wiki article, but it's wrong. A paraphilia is any atypical sexual desire. I like a bit of rough sex/spankings so that's a paraphilia.

    http://health.discovery.com/centers/sex/sexpedia/paraphilia_04.html

    2. A paraphilia isn't bad because of the formal definition. Your desire is bad because if you acted on it, you would destroy a childs life.

    Which is why it's a dangerous paraphilia, one that needs to be confronted with a counselor.

    Unlike my healthy love of spankings.
     
  10. Cate8

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    ........ Fine, you like pubescant children, not 'pre-pubescant' children. MY BAD
     
  11. fibre1

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    You're wrong. Homosexuality could be called 'atypical' but it's not a mental illness.
     
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    If you had sex with a twelve year old, someone would be at risk. The twelve year old who's life you just destroyed. And it is a paraphilia, an unusual sexual deviance. It's not seperated under the DSM 4 under the arbitrary age you use to justify your feelings.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16316910

    Moreover as this article obviously demonstrates, not all child molesters meet the criteria for pedophilia under the DSM4.

    You're debating semantics. You're wrong about the semantics, and more importantly, the semantics aren't the point.

    The point is you have a dangerous attraction to very young girls which needs to be confronted by you. I wouldn't think less of you if you had a problem and were willing to admit it.

    But you're trying to justify something which is a desire which would involve the monstorous destruction of a childs life.

    Please seek help.
     
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    Semantics again.

    Nor are all paraphilias mentioned in the DSM 4, are mental illnesses. Such as cross dressing. It's still a paraphillia because paraphilias denotation is an unusual sexual desire, not a mental illness.

    I'm telling you, you need help because your paraphilia would endager children.
     
  14. fibre1

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    In your right-wing, puritanical, American opinion this is 'dangerous' just as all the drugs you prohibit now and alcohol in the past are according to 'you.' It is NOT a paraphilia you are WRONG - I invite you to prove that my attraction to adolescents is a mental illness using the DSM-IV - bear in mind I'm attracted to adolescent girls of all ages and women age 20+. I don't fit the definition of pedophile, and ephebophilia is not a DSM-IV-listed mental illness. You need to seek help for your irrational prejudice.
     
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    Allonym cheesecake slut

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    these forums arent true free speech. personal attacks arent allowed, for instance. sometimes some minor censoring is required to keep people interested in staying around (ie avoiding flame-fests)
     
  16. I'minmyunderwear

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    exactly what i was referring to. you didn't read a word anyone said to you, and then you thrust personal attacks out that are based on absolutely nothing...

    sounds like starting shit to me
     
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    I wonder if fibre expresses his attraction in real life, or just under his anonymous username. I wonder if he and his buddies get turned on by the hotties in barbie and bratz commercials while drinking beer, and hang around the local junior high trying to pick up for date night.
     
  18. fibre1

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    The DSM-IV is a comprehensive list of all mental illnesses. You're making an assertion that isn't based in fact.
     
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    I read the posts and responded, to say I'm 'starting shit' is an unfounded slur.
     
  20. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    i suspect he's one of two things:

    either a hipforums regular who actually managed to create a decent alias,
    or some weird loner guy who seems relatively normal in life except for the fact that he has no friends, and looks a little longer than others when a 14-year-old girl walks by...
     
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