How Do You Encourage Someone To Work?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by abarambling, Jul 26, 2016.

  1. abarambling

    abarambling Banned

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    I can do so easily when he wants money for his stuff, but not money on food, shelter, etc. What do I do then?
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    That's the best moment to teach him this lesson about life. Morrow worded it well!

    Too vague advice for most work shy people :p
     
  3. abarambling

    abarambling Banned

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    $1000 just for truck driving school? I think I might suggest that. It's cheap. Not a lot of schooling. And all I have to do is look for a school and pay for it. Like I said if I just tell him to be a truck driver, work for yourself, be a public speaker, etc. without helping him attain that then he won't do anything. He needs help.
     
  4. Moonglow181

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    Can you think of something both of you could do for a business together?
     
  5. abarambling

    abarambling Banned

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    Oh, and I have suggested dealing, but then he got mad at me. He thought I didn't care if he got arrested, that I was using him, etc.
    He hasn't told me why he doesn't want to work, but I totally think this is why he doesn't want to work. Maybe volunteering might actually help. I'll suggest that too.

    The temp agencies is a great idea too, but like I said before he is not going to put the time or effort into it. He either will call once or never. You have to like guide him through the process of finding a job, and obtaining it.
     
  6. StellarCoon

    StellarCoon Dr. Professor

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    Maybe he's not work shy, just uninspired and mentally trapped.
     
  7. abarambling

    abarambling Banned

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    Lol. I'm taking notes. And will do my own research on some of the suggestions later this week. You are surely amongst one of them.
     
  8. abarambling

    abarambling Banned

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    Oh, Gosh... no. I don't want to work with him or for him.
     
  9. abarambling

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    I think so too.

    I'm not going to lie, though... sometimes I think he is doing this just to be a jerk. I tend to give people the benfit of the doubt and blame myself. That's how I normally am. But, sometimes I'm like, "Fuck, they're screwing me over!"
     
  10. bourne1978

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    Well since you said he likes listening to music, then sell to him that as a trucker he'll also get to listen to his favorite music in the big rig. Plus, sell to him that he'll get to check out model looking girls at strip clubs to locations he'll be sure to be going into and resting in, if he goes for class A CDL (commercial drivers license) rather than class B CDL.

    Class B is for being a local trucker. Class A is for being a regional trucker which takes up an area of states that he gets to choose to take on as a trucker.

    All truck driving schools have job placement. Doesnt like making a resume? He'd be in luck cause this field just require a truck company ap being filled out, and the truck schools have all the aps in the school. This is simple if he isnt in the mood for a stressful find work process.
     
  11. abarambling

    abarambling Banned

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    So, you're saying cut him off regardless if he doesn't have money for food and shelter? Or are you saying in general work values are taught best when you're a child?
     
  12. StellarCoon

    StellarCoon Dr. Professor

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    Sometimes when people feel trapped and frustrated with themselves and people are on them about something they do tend to act like assholes(or appear that way). Not saying this the case here, just putting it out there.
     
  13. abarambling

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    Yea, he definately is not in the mood for the whole finding/obtaining work process. If we don't guide him through it he won't do anything. But, I like this idea. Minus the whole looking for other girls at motels, but fuck, if it gets him working... I don't care. Cheating isn't really a big deal to me.
     
  14. abarambling

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    Besides my brother and his jokes I think we all have been very supportive of him and his behavior. I think he has attacked us more than we have attacked him. But, I agree not working and being a man does make many guys into jerks, because they're upset with themselves. I've even experienced some girls get like that about work. Work is important, and when you're not working... you lose your sense of worth.
     
  15. expanse

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    Do you know if he has any short, medium, or long term goals?

    Motivation is a key force behind getting and keeping a job. Thing is, his motivation will be getting something that HE really wants. Most people are resistant when they are looking for a job just to make others happpy.

    Find out if he wants to go on vacation, buy a car or new car, save money to retire early and travel, etc...

    Maybe his motivation is in another direction. Maybe helping others would be motivation, even if it doesn't mean getting rich.

    I'd try to help him find what would make HIM happy, then set goals, then figure out a job that will lead him toward his goals. Hopefully one of his goals is to take care responsibilities related to family too.
     
  16. captainzanax

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    could it be he is smoking weed too much? just saying not judging respect
     
  17. captainzanax

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    could it be he is smoking weed too much? just saying not judging respect
     
  18. bourne1978

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    I want to add another angle after what expanse just said.

    Go to a store that sells vitamin B-12 at 500 to 3000 mcg. Get the ones with a fruity taste. (its about a $10-$12 price at a drug store.) This can boost his energy. Sometimes having more physical energy can motivate you and inspiring you to do further things than just typical things in the day. Ever try to sit still when you have a lot of energy? No, it makes you go and get things done. It makes you even feel great while getting some things done.

    Energy is kind of a natural high. Get him high on energy before selling him things in this thread, and it might increase the chance of getting wanted results out of him.

    I currently take B-12 500 mcg. Point blank this vitimine does what they say it does, give you energy, and it is clearly noticeable after I take 'em.
     
  19. bourne1978

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    This is a kind of funny joke you could run by him, since he usually leaves jobs.

    Since you leave a lot you can leave a lot more, but as a trucker.

    I mean maybe the act of leaving itself is what motives him. Sounds funny but could be true. And there are ppl who change jobs a lot because the work becomes stale to them. A job that keeps you going to different places might be what he needs to stay put. Trucking just might be a perfect fit for him afterall.
     
  20. abarambling

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    He has never talked to me about any goals. Besides wanting to be a rapper, but that's a desire, not a goal. Because he isn't really doing anything to become one. I even suggested making videos of his raps, and putting them on YouTube. By, even when he agrees with me when I give him an idea for work he doesn't do anything about it. Even when we hold his hand through the whole process of finding and keeping a job he doesn't put forth the time and effort to keep it. We can't do everything for him. He has to do some of the work. Anyways, I do think he would love to help people. He is kind of cocky, lol. So, he thinks he can help everyone. Lol. Honestly, I don't know if he were to get a career in which he helps people that, that will give him motivation. But, I don't know what will happen, considering he has never had a career, nor a career in which he is helping people. That might make a huge difference. Or maybe it will be the same thing. I honestly don't know.
     

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