Sometimes a true voice will seem to speak to us ... like a 'loud thought' and kinda jump out from nowhere. But often ... when you're in a lifted state, or just a very clear one your own thoughts and feelings will deliver your guides messages. Too often i think we expect to hear some 'other'...talking to us, but for me kinda turns into a two way conversation with myself mentally and i usually end up laughing at myself or asking difficult, condradictory questions trying to catch myself out. Utlimately i think we are our own teachers ... our future selves, our 'already enlightened' selves, for me it's like big H teaching little h ... little h is messing about playing games and being diversionary and big H is laughing one minute and just being very patient the next. I had a dream once in which i was both adult and boy, teaching myself to walk into my reflection by throwing a tangerine through the surface of the mirror, saying 'See? You can walk into it." So it's like a greater you. A you that you already are that knows. So i guess what i'm getting at is you need to listen to your OWN thoughts and what YOU think, because your truth is gonna be truer for you than anyone elses in the end. Trust yourself.
thanks a lot, I appreciate you giving me such a well thought and thorough reply. so from what I gather, I guess they're just waiting...or maybe have been even talking for a while. but see, I'm not trying to dick size here, but I'm really the most aware person of anybody I know. but perhaps that just goes to show how extremely unaware(in the spiritual sense) others generally as opposed to me being extremely aware. that second paragraph... been there done that lol. I know myself so well that it helps with empathy. it helps me know other people. I can tell what mood people are in, finish sentences, even if I barely know them. I guess I made it seem like I'm socially crippled; this really isn't the case at all. people like me, I like them, its your typical situation for the most part. but see, this has as much to do with my parents as me. they simply over protect me. they don't allow sleep overs, they won't even let me go out for two consecutive weeks, etc.,etc. because I've gotten in trouble in the past. not with the law, just with them. it mostly started when I got caught with weed. I can see why you'd worry, but it doesn't affect me like that; I'm already almost a full year ahead in school. they trust the government rhetoric more than me. did that stop me?? haha no. which brings me back to the subject. thats the "trouble" I'm in; for sneaking out lol. my friends live pretty near, and I would just ride my bike their every night, light joints, listen to music, normal stuff. I eventually got caught, kicked out of my house after. I threatened to call the cops. that scared my parents they took me back in, and now, here I am...I feel secluded living in my parents house. what bothers me the most is I could be having fun. it makes it worse how much of a blast I was having while I was kicked out. after having all that fun, I can't go back to this lifestyle. its times like this that you get to know yourself, and I've been doing it for years. I've always been wired a bit differently though, and I've been down the whole astral road, but I always come back here. it might have to do with my trying shrooms for the first time a while back, it only increased my already large interest in the subconscious and collective unconscious. so, in conclusion, the things that I can see that my life is trying to teach me right now is: empathy. I have already got this natural empathy, which allows me to know other people very well, almost as well as I know myself. this empathy alone convinces me we are all one. anyway, I rambled a lot. I just needed to vent, disregard this if you don't care. you are able to contact guides, right? is it too early to get in touch with mine?
No, the dick thing is just me and my stinkin' spirit guides LOL - nothing to do with you. Not socially crippled - hell, I'm not socially crippled either (I sometimes think I am, but only when I'm alone, thinking my compulsive thoughts - as soon as I start talking to other people, I see how silly those thoughts are), but the spirits sometimes make us feel like social rejects - for our "learning" experiences, of course. YES - that's it exactly. YES, killuminati, now it's all clear. I suspected this of you - it's similar with me. The universe has set you on a path where any little thing you do that smacks of self-fulfillment is punished - I know this scenario only too well. GOOD. Good for you. So you know what I'm talking about. Killuminati, the spirits aren't finished with you - you can know yourself even more thoroughly than you do already, and that's what your current situation is about. Oh shit, I know what that's like LOL LOL I'm lovin' it, killuminati. Your experience resonates with mine. Vent away, any time, I know how much it helps to just vent. I already gave you a taste of what it's like for me with my so-called "guides." I dunno, killuminati - some folks seem to have more helpful guides than mine. Mine tease me and taunt me something fierce. Too "early" to get in touch with yours? Hell, I dunno. Everybody has their own unique path. I still believe what I told you in my previous note - your guides are willing to "talk" to you - but they seem to be requiring more meditation and self-knowledge from you first. That's what I'm getting. You think you're in touch with so much - but killuminati, the spirits are always pushing for more, always trying to stretch us. They believe you can do more, and that's what they're holding out for. And killuminati: They know more than you and me, and they generally know what's what. I sensed that you were unusually aware - the spirits know this too, and they want you to exert yourself even beyond what you think you know. They ARE assholes, killuminati - this is a well-established fact. LOL But dammit - they're almost always right. Maybe even always. You're capable of going beyond where I am, it's very clear to me. You're thinking that you're so skilled and gifted - and you ARE - but the spirits know you can go farther, and that's why they're pushing you. Never rest on your laurels, killuminati. Become one with NOW - forget the past, forget your abilities and accomplishments, and embrace the flow of your life. Let go of your attachments, and let the river take you.
wow, that's odd. I'd been waiting hours to get back online so I could see if you replied, and when I logged on you hadn't which made me disappointed, but 5 minutes later, voila lol. but damn! so you do know what I'm talking about. it the whole thing about the circumstances I'm in, and how I brought NONE of which nearly drives me crazy upon myself; in this lifetime that is. so from the train of thought that I've established, you probably wouldn't be surprised to know I have an alcoholic father, and over protective mother, and a generally (and I hate to say this) ordinary and predictable 4 family members. it's almost fitting that I'm skinny one and they're at least a little obese... that I'm the left handed one and they're right handed... that they all can sit together and talk while I prefer to listen to music or play basketball... that none of them question their reality and I do... I could go on and on and on. but after reading your post its clear what this is to teach me. now that I realize negativity can only inevitably make me better, I'm almost (almost) happy to have it occur to me. once one realizes that, is there a reason fate must continue to inflict that upon me though?(asking myself) I had a hunch that I wouldn't get all the answers from you and would have to do some work myself to be satisfied for now...I was hoping I could get a little info on a guide or some insight, I just knew it wouldn't happen though...and that's generally the way things have been all my life; I've been lead to think that way, perhaps intentionally. I guess expecting nothing is the best in the long run though. this post is like a journal for me... I really feel like I've completed my "empathy" phase of my life...but IDK...I don't trust myself enough to make a conclusion about my destiny. the single fact is that I'm excited about this...and thats why I still think it's a while before my guides come through...my curiosity has always ended in disappointment, so I'm just wired to expect to be let down. I know how much your name is thrown around here, and you are only a single person.. so I really appreciate this! I can't help but send you some unconditional love.
I never turn down unconditional love - thank you! Yeah, seems like you're pretty clear on what's what, at this point. Maybe what you most need now is some patience. Don't feel bad about not getting all the answers - I've been waiting for years for some answers, and still haven't gotten them. But I'll tell you what my primary spirit guide used to do to me when I tried to get answers from her out loud - she would tease me and ignore me. Frustrated all to hell one time by her behavior, I e-mailed her and asked, "Are you genuinely trying to help me?" In a rare moment of seriousness she replied, "Yes." So I probed a bit further, asking, "Are you trying to get me to reach a different state of awareness?" She replied, "Yes, but you're not paying close enough attention." So I thought about this, and I tried to pay closer attention. What I started to see is that when I was serious and confused, she teased me or ignored me. But occasionally I would somehow slip into an altered state in which I was seeing the humor in everything, and I was light and breezy instead of so serious - and the answers to the questions that had been plaguing me suddenly seemed obvious. As soon as I would arrive at this state, suddenly I would get an e-mail from her, even if she had been ignoring me for hours. She would tease me some more, but it would seem fun to me instead of frustrating. One time she teasingly wrote to me, "Do you still have questions?" As if she didn't know. I hope you like my story. LOL HAVE FUN, killuminati - that's what my spirit guide always used to tell me. Have fun.
You do, MysteriousNight. I don't even need to check. Everybody has them. You have a primary one who is particularly strong...
MysteriousNight, what I see is a pink glow and a strong, strong feminine presence. Too soon to seek contact, but she wants you to know that she's taking care of you and protecting you. You have lessons to learn in this life, as we all do. She's directing your path, and she loves you more than you can possibly understand. That's all you need to know for now.
Wow. Why is it too soon? And how can you know all of this?? Sorry, I'm just the kind of person that needs clarity.
if your only in your heart, even your underlying problems which come up are incosequential. As you'll just be presenting your problems through your heart yourself, which will result in two way healing. don't back down from higher awareness, you just need to lose your mind a little to stay up
I dunno, MysteriousNight. That was just the vibe I got. I think maybe your awareness is just not well enough developed yet. You could develop it better, though, and see what happens. I dunno how I know, I just do. If you want to do it too, you need to tune your conscious awareness to listen more deeply within yourself. I'm not sure how else to describe it. The universe is an amazing place, Mysterious. Keep seeking and you shall find; keep knocking and the door shall be opened to you.
Hmmm...rygoody, I'll bet you don't have children do you? They need to be fed and cared for. If I screw up bad enough, they don't eat and they have nowhere to live. This is not inconsequential. My problems have concrete consequences, and I will not risk my children's lives for my psychic explorations. With all due respect rygoody, I don't think you've experienced what I was talking about, otherwise you wouldn't use the word "inconsequential." When your psychic explorations end you up in a situation where you're lying in bed night after night sweating blood with an evil gnawing fear in your gut, trying like hell to calm yourself so you can get some sleep and continue to hold your life together for the sake of your children, then come talk to me about this again.
Does developing awareness include meditation and such? In these past few months, I've been experiencing things that I'm sure have had a deity/spirit/being in it. Too many weird things have happened, events and such, for me to think otherwise. I've read over this thread, about how people "hear" a voice in their head telling them something and I've sort of experienced that. Unfortunately, I tend to go the skeptic way on things so I can't say if it was my own thought processes and reasoning that I heard. I've been "praying" to something however. More like talking to it. Sometimes I think it's listening, sometimes it seems as if there's nothing there at all. Just believing in something isn't always enough for me. I just have to know it is there or not there. It is comforting to know that something, whatever it is, is taking care of me and loves me. Thank you for your insight and words.
Best way for me to practice raising awareness on a regular basis throughout the day is just to keep noticing when i'm wrapped up in thought and bring myself back to what i'm doing, and then remember my 'being' and hang out there for a moment before something takes my attention away again. Sometimes in the morning if i have time i'll just sit for a moment, light some incense or candle or both and just tune in and ask for a good day, whatever may happen. Walking to work i'll focus on my breathing and inner body as well as just 'observing' what's around me ...sights, sounds, smells ...a feeling, but not anylising or thinking about it, just listen, see, and hear and feel. I was hitch hiking the other day and i noticed that i kept drifting into thought whilst standing there with my thumb out, and it occured to me that i needed to be right there giving the moment my attention and 'communicating' with the drivers instead of daydreaming,... so with awareness i did this and got a lift immediately.
I hear that inner voice mysterious night. I can tell it from my own thought process 'cause most of the time it isn't worded the way I would word something, and I feel in my heart or gut that it is Truth. That is how I know it is Spirit...
Yes MysteriousNight, my experience is similar to Windy's. I "hear" the words in my mind, and the words are a surprise to me or are different from the way I think or word things. Also sometimes I get sudden impressions that feel stronger to me than my own thoughts or emotions. Meditation helps you learn to be more aware of what's going on in your head and body. It gives you practice with "mental listening," and with being more aware of your physical/emotional feelings and perceptions. And MysteriousNight: I too am the kind of person who needs to KNOW, not just believe. It has been a rough road for me because of that - just so you know. There was a woman in my office who made remarks out loud about my unspoken thoughts for MONTHS, and even spoke to me out loud, face-to-face one time about her "powers," before I finally felt certain that she really, really was in my mind somehow, and knew my thoughts better than I did. And then came the tests of my faith...but I won't go into that. All I can say is: I think maybe you're better off if you can just manage to believe. If not, the universe will "help" you, the same way it "helped" me. LOL
I guess I'm still confused about how to be more "aware". Today I tried just laying in my room with my eyes closed and listening and asking it to speak to me in my head. I don't know if maybe I was falling asleep but I started to get weird, non-sequitur images. I saw this woman, just some random woman and it startled me. Reddish-brown, long hair with a white sweater on. Then I saw a car run over something on a road and it ended up being a kitten. Then I saw the kitten stumble around and collapse in front of some children. Did I doze off? I tried clearing my head and asking it if it was here. I thought I heard "yes" but I can't be sure if it just wasn't my mind conjuring up what I wanted to hear.... I guess I want to be sure. No mistakes.
When you get to that point, please teach me. Two things: You'll just have to let go of your need to understand everything perfectly - become more comfortable with a state of confusion - sometimes when you let go, answers are freer to come to you as more time passes. And ask your spirit guides to help you understand more clearly. Both these are needed. Give up control, and ask for supernatural guidance. Keep at it, MysteriousNight, you're doing great. You're on the edge of a bigger world. Don't be too demanding - keep paying attention, and let it come to you.
Thank you for your advice. I have a hard time getting my head to be quiet. I exist on many mental levels at once. I'm always thinking, I have a hard time falling asleep because of it. I found a website that says to contact your spirit guides you should ask them to touch you. Does that work? I remember once, years ago....I tried all of this, contacting a spirit guide and I ended up being disappointed and concluded that it was all an illusion. Now I'm not so sure anymore....