How can you justify or excuse suicide?

there is a time for everything. there may even be times when it is the only honorable path that remains open. i do not see things as being inconceivable.

i also, of course, do not see this as being common either. hope dies last, and there's no good sense in beating it to death.

yes there are drama queens and all that, but that's their problem. so why keep creating a market for them? which is what ragging on this subject does. and about the only thing that doing so does.

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It's the same shit every time.

''You must not have been there''.

That's my fucking point. I have.

 

I can symphathize with certain cases...like Daniel's uncle. He committed suicide a long while back and he had a really fucked up life. It ended with him injuring his back at work and having a doctor milk him and his insurance for all they were worth, without really treating the injury, and ontop of that, refusing to send his information to another doctor. He lived his last year or two in excruciating pain, barely able to get up from the couch, and the last time he got up from the couch was to his gun collection, then he shot himself. I'm pretty certain he had no wife or kids and everyone who loved him knew he was better off...so, while a bit of a selfish decision, would you rather live your days in excruciating pain? I can totally symphathize with him.

 

couldn't have said it better myself.


and on a personal note, I feel like suicide is no longer an option once you have kids. Again, a personal belief of mine

 

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Heh.

And I don't think suicide is ever an option. You certainly don't want to leave behind children, husbands, wives, mothers, or fathers, But I don't think the people who do it are well. And to have so much spite to someone who's suffering from a disease is remarkable.

Serious depression is a disease, and in the case of suicide, can be fatal.

The guy who wrote this saying, I was depressed, but now I'm not. These people who killed themselves shouldn't be pittied, is kinda scumy.

 

you've had your own battle, yes...but its dinstinctly different than everyone elses, no matter how many similarities you try to say there are...it was your battle and yours alone.

so no, you haven't been there in terms of what others have gone through.

 

My point is that not everyone deals with depression as well as you obviously did. It doesn't help anyone or anything to keep putting others down.

 

Exactly!

 

imagine some old person, struck by a malady, not able to move, watching other people take care of him, feeling humiliated by that...
dont ya think suicide can be excused in such a case?
anyway evry person is free to choose his own way. but every serious step should be well-considered

 

I wouldn't call kamikaze pilots and suicide bombers cowards...

idiots and monsters, yes, cowards, no.

some cultures believe that suicide is an honorable way to go.

then again, there are different reasons for suicides.

a spousal murder-suicide is going to have a lot of different elements than say a college kid cracking under pressure.

and both are going to be different than someone struggling with a mental illness.

either way, it's easy to be the one doing the judging...