I have read his works, it doesnt alter the fact that in language truth and logic he was of the opinion that religion, and the word "god" was meaningless a position from which i dont beleve there is justification to move from
Then you don't have the capacity to understand him and you should stick to donald duck. My position, is that you are a troll spouting nonsense in order to try to cause problems, or are just plain old too stupid to understand the concepts you are trying to argue. There is no need to revise this position.
ah then my opinion of you was correct from the start - like i said before I rarely argue with the religious just as I rarely argue with those who have an unfortunate deficit of mind.
I think it curious that Kurtz is being ostracized by the humanist movement organization he began, for being too accommodating to religion.
Habermas I understand now, confronts 'God' as of Religion with philosophy OR at least meta-physical reality of the sort of thinking of g-d that terminates, OR something the consideration of secular worlds for every fear in Consicousness. And in the renditions of the comments in this thread alongside of the idea of god being Man's creator there is the analysis of god the controller of our so-called 'Secular' lives. Out of religion and religious people henceforth there is to develop the survival mechanism of the material World, called the missing reasonable giver of our Human Nature. Divine Nature is thereby analyzed to be the big filler of people begging for the missing Link, da...daah.... meta-physically and analytically at the same occurrence forever, GOD. "Human Reason has this peculiar Fate that in the course of it's Reasoning it asks Questions which only ..." how many know on this site this one.
I use the word "god" (note the lower-case) when I have to. If I am talking about people who claim to believe in this super-power that they call "God" (capital-letter), I have to call this "concept" of theirs something. So out of simplicity and clarity, I do not refrain from calling their belief "god."
when writing down logical propositions, it is possible to write down things that are false. but something being false does not take away the ability to write it down. how can atheists write down false things? well i don't think they are just writing down false things. atheists are writing down false things and then denying/not-acknowledging false things. this is a ridiculous thread
Better than writing down false things, and having your descendants and most of the peoples that they come into contact with pray to false things or their various variations for the next 3+ thousand years, ain't it?
what is a theism but the doctrine of a particular deity. what is pantheism but doctrine of all deity. what is polytheism but doctrine of many deity. what is monotheism but doctrine of one deity. what is zero to one...a number... scepticism proper denies the existence of knowledge. what is a sceptical scientist but an oxymoron. how i wish how i wish you were here...
It's amazing we've gotten 137 posts out of an original one that rests on a faulty premise: that to use a term a person has to believe in the reality of the thing the term refers to. That's obviously wrong, since regardless of whether or not ghosts, unicorns, Spaghetti Monsters exist in reality, they exist in the human mind and in dictionaries, and therefore can legitimately be discussed--as myths. If the OP can't get this, (s)he's hopeless. Now can we put this dumb topic to rest.
We use it in lower case just like you did. Same is true of the great pumpkin, easter rabbit, or any other myth out there.
God doesn't exist, but the word god exists, therefore we can use it. There are many things that don't exist that we have words for.