How balanced do you think the media cover the Israel/Palestinian "war"?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by odon, Jan 4, 2009.

  1. Palven

    Palven Member

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    Below is my opinion of media bias in a letter to Wayne Ezell of the Time-Union, Jacksonville, Florida

    Dear Editor
    In today's Times-Union, an article by Ben Feller of the AP states that Bush will say in his radio address today that "Eighteen months ago, Hamas took over the Gaza Strip in a coup..." Feller reports that "Hamas-run Gaza has been isolated from the rest of the world since the Islamic militants won parliamentary elections in 2005. Then Hamas violently seized control of the Gaza strip in June 2007, expelling forces loyal to the moderate Abbas- the "coup" to which Bush referred."
    This is bullshit, not news. Hamas won large victories in both the West Bank and Gaza over Abbas's PLO in Rice and Bush's vaunted democratic elections.. Then the US and Israel orchestrated a coup against Hamas in the West Bank which prevailed. When Hamas repelled the coup in Gaza it is called "violently seized control." The rest of the world know that this is as much nonsense as Hussein's weapons of mass destruction, but maybe US citizens will still believe the Bush/Condi Bullshit Squad
    Jan 3,2009
    Tom Palven
     
  2. greenryder

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    Haven't been paying that much attention, however last night watching CNN made me want to gag. The coverage was all one sided.

    When I put on CTV and CBC on, I found they were more balanced, though leaned more to the Palestinians.
     
  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    It's becoming harder for all media to show only the Israeli viewpoint. And the Israelis only have themselves to blame for that. You can't wage a lopsided offensive and cry victim at the same time, and be believed.
     
  4. navajas

    navajas Member

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    oh and they store children and innocent civilians also! was the israeli army 100% sure that they store weapons there? i bet they were! just like the americans were sure of weapons of mass destruction in iraq... only savages kill children to destroy a couple of weapons that do not exist... why am i even arguing with u, ur israeli, ofcourse ur gonna side with ur country... eventhough these tanks are made in israel theyre as efficient and high tech as US tanks.... wars are not fair, you said it, thats why suicide bombers are born because of the injustice... so you have complete faith in ur governement and media? no doubts at all? did u try reading and watching other sources? no! cuz theyre all lies except for ur holy newspapers and media! have u ever heard of something called propaganda? anyways you call me douche, u say im full of shit, you call me ignorant, u make fun of the way i spell, and i havent attacked u once, this shows how much of an opinionated person u are... im not gonna call u names or insult you cuz im on a higher level than you... its over! reply to my last post and im out of here!
     
  5. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Another eugenics lesson for you.

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "JEWISH" BLOOD. It's a lie. Followers of a religion don't pass their religion through their genes.

    Your kind of thought is EXACTLY what the Nazis were trying.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics

    Christian zionists over here have become rabid in their support of Israel and Jews, without understanding what's changed since the days of Moses.

    The media hasn't helped.



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  6. navajas

    navajas Member

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    there is a semite gene, and the only semite jews are the descendants of "bani israel" arab jews (hebrew speaking tribes that lived in arabia and converted to judaism by moses)... polish jews, african jews etc are not semites! they are a cocktail of races... Judaism is a religon not a race, it never was!
     
  7. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    How balanced is media coverage? I think this about says it all. Hard to take one side seriously when they are beginning to appear paranoid.

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/media-entry-deal-aborted/2009/01/06/1231004019282.html

     
  8. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    But wait, remember this??

    Linkhttp://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showpost.php?p=4510879&postcount=245

    You labeled this guy(Adam) Jewish for NO other reason than His Grandfather was....

    Adam

    For someone who claims they have studied this for many years (i believe you claimed more than 30 years) you sure FUBAR'D this one,again.
     
  9. navajas

    navajas Member

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    if judaism is a race how come adam is a muslim then? this proves my point... judaism is a religion and adam converted into islam, hes is no longer jewish... nobody knws what his race is... a black man cant convert into a white man unless if he was michael jackson ofcourse :p... do u get my point?
     
  10. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Judaism is a Religion.

    "hes is no longer Jewish"

    When was he ever Jewish??
     
  11. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    When you have the family connections he does, I have no reservations about referring to him as Jewish. It was his upbringing.

    Even gazing over the Wiki entry will tell you his background. His grandfather was a sitting member of the ADL. That means the family is among the Jewish elite. He may have converted to Christianity and then to Islam later in life but his "roots" are in Judaism.

    Perhaps his allegence as well.

    Let's look at his family tree, shall we? We must, we must.

    Those aren't Irish names...

    http://www.wargs.com/other/gadahn.html




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  12. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    You still fail to prove he ever converted to Judaism,


    What, trying to label people Jewish by association, like you're doing?



    At 16, thats not later in life, pretty early if you ask me.
     
  13. navajas

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    he was born jewish, why are we arguing? we both agree that judaism is a religion...
     
  14. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Who else besides Xexon would say this,



    then follow up with ,
    And you're not suffering from Judeophobia:cheers2:
     
  15. navajas

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    i just read the article again he was born christian... his grandfather is jewish, his dad is christian and hes a muslim... AGAIN JUDAISM IS A RELIGION!
     
  16. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Try reading this,101 then comeback and tell me how he was born Jewish,ok?
     
  17. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    If you were to ask members of his familiy what their lineage is, they would say Jewish.

    His grandfather would shout it from the mountaintops, because thats what people in the ADL do.

    I don't share the Jewish view of lineage, but they do, so it has to be dealt with.

    You have to include the social fabric that is born out of religious belief too. This is where the line between religion and culture becomes blurred. Modern Jews aren't afraid of losing their religion half as much as they are about losing their identity in society. They don't know who they are, and zionism has warped many into thinking they're a race again.

    Dangerous thinking.

    But the western media shys away from use of the z word. They too, tend to refer to Jews as a people, and Israel as a "Jewish" state.

    More racist tripe.

    The people need to be told who the real semites in Israel are.



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  18. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    His Mother and Father wouldn't.

    That's obvious, you share the NAZI view.

    WE expect nothing but, from you.


    And the People at HipForums need to know who the real "anti-semities" here are.


    Well, that's what you're trying to do,(blur the line) might i add you suck at it badly.
     
  19. BraveSirRubin

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    Only savages store weapons next to innocent civilians and children. The Israeli military wouldn't be wasting expensive bombs on buildings that did not contain Hamas fighters. I read many sources, including dumb liberal ones. I do not have faith in any media or any government.

    Please do be out of here so that we could resume a good discussion.

    By the way: "cuz", "u", "ur" and "im" aren't words.
     
  20. navajas

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    do i have to post this twice for u to read: "i just read the article again he was born christian... his grandfather is jewish, his dad is christian and hes a muslim... AGAIN JUDAISM IS A RELIGION!" scroll upwards n ull find it...
     
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