Honor your father.

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by jmt, Apr 4, 2014.

  1. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    But how so? What if you have irresponsible parents? I always dislike this law in Christianity. I mean how do you know your parents have good judgement? How do you know your isn't any better? Sure they have more experience in life but yet they don't have a enriched life. This really bothers me alot since I noticed some people aren't the brightest and wisest. How can you really depend on your parents judgement and know it's the one to always take at hand.
     
  2. Deranged

    Deranged Senor Member

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    Personally i think having a good relationship with your parents regardless of their competence and douchebaginess is good for the psyche
     
  3. Jo King

    Jo King wannabe

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    My parents were good people, so I know their judgement was good
     
  4. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Probably, something is lost in the translation from original text. The Bible wasn't written by God and it was not written in English.
     
  5. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    i've known several good people who had terrible judgment.
     
  6. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    To answer the question about parents who you feel may be maybe "less than". Clearly, you never follow anyone down a path of ruin.

    Honor you father/mother by living a good life and doing the best you can.
     
  7. Jo King

    Jo King wannabe

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    well then we have different definitions of what good people are
     
  8. MindControlledShepple

    MindControlledShepple Member

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    Thats like the least serious sin to worry about. I think you'll be okay
     
  9. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    How to honor one's father and / or mother ..

    don't be evidence of their failures and mistakes.

    Love Always,

    rx
     
  10. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Honoring or respecting somebody doesn't mean you have to agree with them, any more than loving someone means that you have to like them. We can honor people because of their achievements or to acknowledge that their role in society is important, even though we think their judgment is godawful.
     
  11. Sam Dodd

    Sam Dodd Member

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    I always took this to mean that you lead a good life and are a good person then it reflects well with your parents. Your honor them by being good.
     
  12. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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  13. Desos

    Desos Senior Member

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    yea thats a good question. i can relate in that my mom has terrible judgement.

    the old testament said honor your parents.

    then Jesus said, if you love your parents more than me you are not worthy.

    and

    I have come to set a man and against his son and a daughter against her mother.

    also

    who is my family? my family are those that do the will of my father.

    confusing

    to honor your parents for sure means to honor their judgement. But you could just be in rebellion and thinking you know better than your parents when really they are right. Or you could really know better, in which case it seems foolish to listen to them. but maybe it is a spiritual thing to listen to your parents even when they are wrong, and learn together. after all the family unit is very important.

    Jesus seemed to say that his words superseded the judgement of parents. so if your parents held you back from following His words in any way then you shouldn't listen.

    truth is, i'm not really sure. most families, including mine, are so broken these days, and most parents don't have the first idea about how to be a good parent.

    God also said you shouldn't get a divorce, and divorce rates in our society are at like what? over 50%?

    hard to see how you could honor your parents if they are divorced.

    honor verb

    to hold in respect, revere.

    respect noun

    esteem for or a sense of worth or excellence of a person, a personal quality or ability, or something considered as a manifestation of a personal quality or ability

    revere verb

    to regard with respect tinged with awe; venerate

    it is also important to remember that despite how many faults a person may have, they may still have wisdom. it can be easy to see a person's faults and overlook their wisdom because all you can see are their faults. especially those close to you.
     
  14. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    Exactly. Respect them as people. Honoring isn't [only] about obedience, but mainly about respect. If they are abusive, respect means praying and trying to come to a forgiveness (which is not the same as condoning what they've done).

    Catechism of the Catholic Church 2217 basically states that if you live at home, and your parent requires something reasonable, then it is proper to respect that. If it is foolish or harmful (i.e. morally wrong), then that obligation is abrogated.
     
  15. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Call no man your father. Honor your father sun and mother earth that your days may be long in the land. Pay attention to and heed the messages of the seasons.
     
  16. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I would behave if I knew what a have was.
     
  17. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I'm pretty sure this 'rule' or line was created from a certain perspective (as most stuff in the bible). It isn't ment to be applied on every possible person and situation surely. And I agree, you DO honour your parents by doing good yourself. You don't have to respect a piece of shit, that's not how I interpret it at least.
     
  18. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    A couple points: even if a human commits the gravest of sins, are they still not human? From a Catholic perspective, even the mightiest if sinners carries the image of god and has human dignity. this is how Catholics can (and should be) vehemently pro Life from natural conception to natural death. So called Catholic proponents of the death penalty are just as big of hypocrites as pro-abortionists.

    Re: respect; How do you adress the worst president in history? The president who lead the country into an unjust war for selfish gain. The president who saw debt rise and rise and rise...


    Mr. President. The office carries a respect even if the person in it has defiled the office.

    This raises an interesting and challenging topic: to whom does the office of parent belong? Biological only, or through association and love? Is an abused child "parent-less"?
     
  19. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Office of parent? Children benefit from any respectful attention and often choose their own role models. Society holds biological parents liable for providence or often civil authority steps in when that is not forthcoming. As far as being progeny man is still as god creates him and children are created through their parents not by their parents. They are instructed in the ways of apprehension by their parents and this accounts for the regeneration of sin. Sin not being an inheritance of blood but of errant instruction, i.e. missing the sign of god. Call no man your father.
    Suffer the children to come unto me.
     
  20. Sam Dodd

    Sam Dodd Member

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    Ah. Clever. Took me a while. By the end of the week, my light's gone out on my porch. :(
     

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