I don't even see why that is remotely funny that I asked for plans... I've found even when constructing a simple bong (which this may be easly compared to, save the butane) every little detail has a noticable effect on the end result. I would want to make the most efficiantly functioning setup. Of course I'm not going to rig any sort of mechanisms to release the gas... I'm just gonna rubberband the fucker and then get the fuck away from it... I know you're gonna have to start it off but a simple rig-up will result in myself not having to stand near it the whole time(not SAFE but SAFER). It's like lighting fireworks, just light it and get the fuck out of there. You both have a big chuckle... like a honey tube is right up there with papers in the essiciancials of paraphanilia. When I bother to build something I like to do it properly. -PsDX
LoL... Dude, you're not gonna be able to just rubberband it and let it go. Anyways, I've done this with friends before and it ain't all that big of a deal provided nobody does anything stupid(Like standing around flicking there lighters). We had a metal pipe bomb type of tube though, not PVC. And as for makeing bongs and details and shit, I always would just group all that small shit into the common sense catagory, mainly because if you can't figure it out already, you probably shouldn't be makeing pipes or purifying things anyways.
dude... I get the picture, what-the-fuck-ever man I'm not planing on making one any time soon anyway. But I would not say that bongs and pipes are in the 'common sense' catagory because there are plenty of expirenced stoners who couldn't build a (nice) bong if their life depended on it. Not really much point of arguing this any further... And when I said I would rubberband it, it was meant as half sarcastic... trying to say I would 'jimmy rig' the can to stay attached and realase gas without having to sit right next to it...
But your average stoner isn't considering the manufacture of honey oil, now is he? And building a lousy bong just means that it leaks or doesn't hit very well. Screwing up during a honey oil extraction could be a BIT more serious, no? Any kind of "kitchen chemistry" demands good mechanical aptitude, a knowledge of EXACTLY what you are doing, and the ability to "think on your feet". People have been seriously injured fucking around with this stuff, and you really don't want to end up in a burn ward because you overestimated your abilities.... The procedure and equipment is quite simple, but it demands serious attention to safety throughout. Most of the writeups on the 'net ignore this, assuming that the chemist is fully aware of the hazards involved. Unless you are, don't try it.
small question about the procedure, says in the erowid file you put a coffee filter or paper towel on the side where the oil comes out of. if this is just to stop the powderized weed from coming out, wouldn't it absorb alot of the oil too? wouldn't a pipe style screen be better? or would this be dangerous? ellis?
It would certainly retain some oil. I would rinse it off with fresh solvent after removal, or just use it as a rolling paper once dried. By using a large excess of solvent, most of the oil will get washed off the filter, anyway. A screen would work if you don't grind the weed too finely. But you really want to grind the weed into a very fine powder to get the most oil out (much finer than you would do for smoking it), and a powder this fine would go right through a coarse screen.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet, but using PVC pipe for a butane extraction could result in your oil containing some nasty chemicals that you don't want to smoke. Use stainless steel or glass only. This is how SWIM did it: Grind up your material. SWIM used 2 oz. of leaves, but you could use about half of that (minimum) in buds. Get a stainless steel pipe (long and skinny is better than short and fat) with an end cap. Drill a hole in the cap just big enough to fit the nozzle of the butane can. Careful, it can be tricky to get it all the butane out if you drill it too large. Secure a coffee filter onto the bottom of your pipe. Fill with plant material loosely. Screw the cap on. Make some kind of stand for the pipe. It's going to get cold as shit and you're not going to be able to hold it. SWIM used some jumper cables and a few random pieces of metal. Get a glass dish (double-shot glass works pretty well) and place it under where the coffee filter end of the cap will be. Place your filled pipe in the stand. Get a couple cans of butane ready. It's gonna take quite a bit (probably 2 whole 6 oz. cans.) Place the nozzle of the can into the hole you drilled and start applying pressure. You should hear the butane coming out of the can, and within 30 seconds to a minute see it start to drip out of the bottom of the pipe. Keep going until you run out of butane. If your glass dish gets full, stop for a second and let some of the butane evaporate. It will help to keep the dish in a warm bath of water or something so that it will evaporate faster. The butane will make the dish cold, which will make the butane take longer to evaporate. Let the rest of the butane evaporate, scrape up the oil with a razor or something similar, and place in your holding vessel (preferably something small and glass.) You could also just cover your dish with plastic wrap, but be careful not to knock it over. Place a drop or 2 on top of some weed or an ash bowl and smoke.
i get a one gram vial for 40 dollars canadian...merely twice as much as regular oil. uh oh..its 6 in the morning and my parents are awake...goodnight everyone
