homosexuality

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by dark_hippie, Dec 10, 2004.

  1. northernlehigh97

    northernlehigh97 Senior Member

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    That's cool...guitar playing rocks...although it's much to complicated for myself...are you sure you are agreeing with me??? It's gonna blizzard...hahaha...let me know how it works out...here's a question, if you don't believe everything about Jesus, why do you celebrate his birth???
     
  2. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    It's not my choice... I live with "Christian" parents (cough bullshit cough cough) and they "celebrate" it. I just see it as a time of gift-giving, having nothing to do with Christ's supposed birthday. Kinda like how its celebrated in Japan...

    I most likely won't "celebrate" it at all after I move out. Nothing but more money for corporate America, in my eyes....
     
  3. northernlehigh97

    northernlehigh97 Senior Member

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    But the gift giving part comes from Jesus's birth...ya know the gifts they brought Him...I do believe people celebrate it wrongly and get way carried away with what Christmas is all about. I'm sure you have a choice, they don't tell you celebrate it or we'll make you stick pins under your finger nails.
     
  4. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    haha no, they dont do that... I probably could tell them that I don't want to celebrate it, and might already have, but I'm not going to argue against getting a *free* electric guitar.
     
  5. PLyTheMan

    PLyTheMan Senior Member

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    Other people are made in God's image, they have the Holy Spirit in them, by loving them, by loveing all that God made, you ARE loving God!

    As far as the scene in the temple, I question the validity of that story, not only does it turn Jesus into a hypocrit but it is a hundred percent out of character for Jesus.

    Put yourself in God's position. You're all powerful, can do anything, made an entire existence. Theres greed, murders, famine, wars, and guys stinking their john thomas in someone else's poop shoot. Which of said problems are really hurting humanity? Which is really important?
     
  6. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    i don't think jesus' scene in the temple was either hypocritical or out of character. not only were thieves and liars making a mockery of god's temple, but they were also making a mockery of the believers and honest people there.

    as for homosexuality, well, hell, a person cannot help what they want, what they are. we are all the same in that respect. naturally speaking, it goes awry of natural laws, in the most immediate, temporary sense. but as with everything else, you can't go against nature, it's impossible. many natural acts are sinful, trying to control those urges is what makes us human. so if i were to be truly enraged at someone for hitting me, according to the bible, i would be committing murder in my heart, a sin. but natural, unavoidable. exactly the same as being gay. i can't help that i love women, that i want to be with them. it's me. i'm not going to be particularly upset with myself over this one aspect of myself, any more that i will hate myself for coveting my neighbor's stuff. it is what it is, and i'm not going to try to form a god around all my flaws, a god that says i'm perfect and that being gay or being covetous is right.
     
  7. dutch_diciple

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    what I ment is not that Jesus was hypocrytical, no sir! I meant that 'do not judge' cannot mean that I can't speak out against homosexuality!
     
  8. dark_hippie

    dark_hippie Member

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    just because it is wrong to judge does not mean it is wrong to have an opinion
     
  9. willpower

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    bottom line is you can not be one while being the other... it has been clearly stated as an abomination of god for man to lay with man...so one can either be a faggot or a christian(one is just as bad as the other!) but clearly one cannot be both... for the doctrine that governs christianity has mad points of condemnation in both old and new testaments! for the record my baby brother is gay and i love him dearly although i can not relate to his choices i can not discount that for the most part he is happy with his partner... moreso than he is with his relationship with christ... so i think if you have gay friends cool, but what you believ can not filter into another persons lifestyle as it is there life to live! not yours! the problem with yall fucking christians is that for some reason yall think you have been appointed to exercise judgement over others and clearly none over yourselves... to the person who started this post... if they were truly your friends than their sexual preference would not be an issue nor would it coincide with your religous beliefs... you got enough shyt to worry... you need to save your own soul anad let your friends worry about their salvation! and besides the mother of christianity(catholic church!) condones and protects all the faggots in there houses.... oh wait im sorry their not faggots they're fucking pedophiles....
     
  10. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    so i cannot be a little wooden stick and a christian at the same time. brilliant insight.
     
  11. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    accept others for who they are, unconditionally, love them, excepting those with evil actions towards others.
     
  12. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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  13. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    Thanks, I take it you agree....


    I have only felt this way about 10 years, and I have since then been called, "too sensitive", too "politically correct,(a compliment, tho not intended to be), being anti-white, 'going to hell', 'wishy washy'(for saying different views can both be right, since they are by different people, in different realities.), so if I don't exclude some group, I am called undecided.
    I get a lot of earnest pleas to accept the Blood/sins thing, and have not heard anything new on that front in many years, just the same exhortations to join the ones who do. I can't. I can only share what I truly believe, and cannot say I believe it, and if I do someday, then I will say so. It is unlikely in my view, though.
    I love the concept that all peoples are able to be righteous and spiritual, no matter the faith or lack of it.
    It is one I cannot foresee myself changing.
     
  14. willpower

    willpower Member

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    the topic is homosexuality... not wooden sticks dumb ass... secondly why was sodom destroyed?
     
  15. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    i thought it was a raping of god's messengers thing. last straw and whatnot, for a place that's ENTIRE existance was wrapped around evil.
     
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    Stop trying to infect innocent minds with the idea that unprotected gay sex is any more dangerous than unprotected hetero-sex. All of you red state ignoramouses don't understand enough about ANYTHING to be giving advice.
    You represent a poorly educated population that cannot think for themselves.
     
  17. amberfilter

    amberfilter Member

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    Because when we were children it became a tradition.... so now we continue it because its a reason to get together with family and celebrate family togetherness and love.
    We all still all celebrate lots of holidays but don't necessarily do what other people did many years ago on them. It's about Intellectual Freedom.
    Declaring Jesus my savior does not make me a good person. What makes me a good person is my thoughtfulness and compassion toward others in my daily life.
     
  18. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    "Male-to-male sex has been the most common mode of exposure among persons reported with AIDS (46%), followed by injection drug use (25%) and heterosexual contact (11%)."
    from: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5021a2.htm

    There are more recent stats at:
    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm

    BTW: The only safe sex is sex with me.
     
  19. Moonjava

    Moonjava Senior Member

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    I have gay friends as well. I believe that homosexuality is wrong, and the Bible calls it an abomination to God. Nonetheless, God will not be mad at us for being friends with gay people. All we can do is pray that the Lord would draw them to a place of repentance. I want my gay friends to be happy, but my prayer is that they would receive a change of heart.
     
  20. dedhead95

    dedhead95 The Wizard of Rhythm

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    If there is a god, he loves everyone regardless
     

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