Homosexuality = sin

sickness is what goes on in africa.

 

Yes....but there are plenty of " NORMAL " people who cant pass on their DNA for reasons also.

 

Humanity was never = Normal.

 

Flamboyant and colorful? What the hell?

 

I guess NORMAL wasnt the right word....I mean there are straight people who cant pass on their DNA...but society doesnt down them because of not re-producing.....if thats the excuse a person is using against gays....yes...the Bible says be fruitfull and multipy and replenish the Earth....but whether to do so or not is left up to each person.

 

In a word: bees.

One can ensure the survival of the species in more ways than merely adding to it. It's common enough in nature for there to be adults who don't bear children but who do serve roles within the colony as hunters, "nannies", etc. It's perhaps not coincidence that if every adult in these situations bore children, the population would spiral out of contorl.

Fact is, humanity is in no danger of dying out from lack of reproduction. We can definitely survive every homosexual choosing not to have children, just as we can survive a fair percentage of heterosexuals making that choice.

 

I can see some people defining it as "sin".or "wrong" Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I suppose it's the religion one subscribes to? Even homosexuals though, who are part of a certain religion that condones homosexuality (Catholocism for example.) still believe homosexuality is legitimate. To many people, the Bible is fiction. The Bible also states we need to accept each other as WHO we are, not the group we belong to.

-WR

 

A sickness? Are you out of your fucking mind? Wha'chu been smokin' mon'? (Did that racial slur define you as having a "sickness"?) No, it's not a sin, you're correct there!
We should we ablr to get pleasure from whatever we please and the rest of 'em can go fuck themselves.
-WR

 

Dude thats pretty fucked up. A sickness? You must've been taught rubbish by your parents because no sensible person would think like that. What you saying is that everything was "put" on Earth to have sex and make babies. I guess you could say that being retarded is a sickness too but then you'd be a moron. I'm African (no, I'm not "black") and I don't even think you are ..Ontario? You've just got dark skin probably thats all. I don't know how that relates to what you're saying but I'm saying it anyway.

 

Andybe careful about making personnal comments to other people, reflect on the content of what is being said, say you disagree if you like, say it makes you angry, but don't make personnal comments about someones culture.
what you said in the above post came very close to a personnal attack
S

 

Focusing on the spiritual world and the kingdom of God is not sin. That is what Jesus says many times. So it doesnt matter if you are gay, as long as you love God and focus your actions on pleasing God. The bible has some very good lessons to teach.

 

I voted no. It is not homophobic to call homosexual intersourse a sin anymore than it is heterophobic to call lust or sex before marriage a sin. It is sex-phobic. Or something like that. I am bisexual and I used to be a follower of Christ- a good one and I felt pretty good about myself and about my relationship with God and about my life in general until I started going to church. I went and actually listened to what the baptists said. I took what they said to heart (and it made me feel terrible). I started having all sorts of problems when I started going to church. I hated myself and had really low self esteem. After a few years of silent desparation they somehow found out about me being bi. A bunch of the adult youth leaders confronted me about it. I told them I couldnt understand why it was a sin. Lifestyle- they said. I argued that I never ever had sex with anyone- told them I denied my feelings as much as possible. To them if your gay your gay even if you are cellibut. They told me I was an abomination and they didnt want me to be around their kids. I cried a lot that day. They convinced me that I was straight (I dont know how). Those people are really terrible. They made me feel like shit. I havent been back to church since (my mom quit making me go). My relationship with God hasnt been the same since and I have sworn off most organized religion. I am to the point now that I wont go to church if I am invited. The couple of years I attended church were probably the worst years of my life

 

There are two types of churches. Good accepting churches and bad, narrow-minded churches. It definitely sounds like you went to one of the bad ones like I did.

Not all churches are like that though. MCC and UCC churches are generally very open and affirming churches that welcome gay people into their congregations. I go to a UCC and I really like it there.

 

How can being judgemental be a sin ??? if it were a sin the god would be a sinner since god gets paid for being a judge !!!! well the catholic church and its capitalist arse licking clergy get paid for saying that its a sin. So what if some butthead thinks you guys sucking nob are evil? Just have a go back and tell him he's a twat ? ask him if he thinks masturbating into a womans vag is a sin - because unless they are trying to make a baby - then its masturbation which is a sin ! just get more interesting with how you attack people who attack you BUT dont bring christians into it - their god is a talking turd and they all talk out their arseholes

and BTW I'm an anarchist from the UK and yeah that uk forum is a bit too right wing - I noticed today theres some very subtle fascism going on there - but the revolution is about to begin in that place

 

I've been to the MCC churches. I like them alot - the only organized church I would contemplate attending.

 

Yes defining gay sex as a sin is homophobic. Hetrosexual behavior is not viewed as sinful or inappropriate. Religion is used to justify all sorts of bigotry.

 

I've read every post in this thread, and everything has already been said. But since most people won't read all of it I still want to put my two cents in.

It is not judgemental to call homosexuals sinners, because all man kind are sinners. ALL OF US. It is judgemental however to hold homosexuality a higher sin than any other. And as far as the word homophobic....I don't understand the use of the word in todays society. I think being gay is a sin, so therfore I am homophobic? I thought the suffix "phobic" meant being afraid of.

 

I also want to say that I don't go to church anymore. I disagree with most organized religon because religon is man made....it is faith and love that is handed down from God. I take the bible for what it is....WORDS. Words that were not only written by man, but censored for thousands of years by man. A lot of the time with ulterior motives. But if you can understand the words that are good, and realize the words that are condemning, than the bible can be a great influince in your life.....

That is all.

PEACE and LOVE

 

Ask yourself ...would you be afraid to have sex with a man....hence...phobic...

 

i dont know....by the bible's standards, humans are imperfect. But humans wrote the bible, and to me, that makes the bible imperfect. If you were the one writing the true words of God, but he mentioned nothing of homosexuality even though you strongly opposed it, wouldn't you just add that bit in there to get your way? We have no way of telling what mankind added into the bible for their own benefits versus what was truly said by God, if anything was even ever said at all. I'd rather not let my faith in God frighten me out of loving another man. I always thought God wanted us to show compassion and love for everyone, even our enemies. Plus, I think that that if God truly does exist, and he created everything that ever existed, then he would surely have the power to not allow humans to be born gay. If he didn't like homosexuality as much as the bible says he doesn't, he would simply make them straight. I don't even think God could give a rat's ass about what gender we love, he supposed to love us infinitely anyways......