Homosexuality = sin

Discussion in 'Gay Polls' started by DoktorAtomik, Oct 15, 2004.

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Is defining homosexual intercourse as a sin homophobic/judgemental?

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  2. No

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  1. henry101

    henry101 Member

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    Oh god, why do all these 'straight' religious people keep coming here?
     
  2. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    .......... I bet they don't even know.
     
  3. SelfControl

    SelfControl Boned.

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    And why can't they retort for shit? I'd have thought being a Christian in this day and age some kind of ready wit would have to be a given. What are they teaching them in Sunday School?
     
  4. Samhain

    Samhain Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    this might have already been said.
    I voted yes.
    at best its unhelpful and and cause people to feel ashamed and guilty about their sexuality, keep someone 'in the closet' and stop them to lead a full sex life, Ive seen this still happen to people in this day and age, even though I live in a town that been named the 'gay town of England' it can cause a persons loved ones, to grasp hold of the belief and not accept family members and friends as much as they would there hetersexual ones, like my Mother whos states she accepts my sexuality and then says she doesn't know if she agrees with 'gay marriage'
    at worse it gives people a damn good excuse to kill and beat up gay people, I'm not being overly dramatic here its happened to people I know in this good old gay town of mine
    S
     
  5. maybegay

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    Well, I do not consider it judgmental, so to speak. At least not in the bad way. I mean, everyone is "judgmental" in some way. If you think so and so at work was a real jerk today, that is technically judgmental. Just because a religious man believes gayness is a sin because his Bible says so (according to him), does not meanhe hates you or wants to hurt you. Everyone is entitled to his opinion. Now if he refused to talk to you or mistreated you because you are gay, THAT would be judgmental. Just my humble opinion.
     
  6. SageDreamer

    SageDreamer Senior Member

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    When you say he thinks we're all sinners, who exactly is meant by "we"? Is "we" all LGBT people or is it everyone else? Christian doctrine holds that *all* people are sinners, so if this person includes everyone and not just LGBT people, it's not homophobic. If this person is singling out LGBT people, it's homophobic and really bad theology.
     
  7. nealallen

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    So has a christian never sinned?
     
  8. monosphere

    monosphere Holly's Hubby

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    If you go by the Bible, the answer is that the only one to have never sinned is Jesus. Everyone else in the world, past and present, has sinned.
     
  9. Last Stand

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    Jesus did sin he hung out with tax collectors for the roman empire and prostitutes . and drank wine with them!.
     
  10. Last Stand

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    where the hell you think all the money came from for that last supper ? i mean that was a fancy party when many were starving outside of the city.
     
  11. monosphere

    monosphere Holly's Hubby

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    since when is it a sin to talk to a tax collector or prostitute? Am I sinning just by associating with my brother who has premarital sex? and it's not a sin to drink, but to get drunk, according to the scriptures. Not to mention that in those days, their wine would be the equivalent of one part today's wine to five+ parts water. And how do you know what they ate at that "fancy" last supper? Were you there? It could have been a quiet simple dinner with his disciples. Or are you just going by DaVinci's painting? It's not a sin to associate with sinners. Actually, the scriptures encourage us to do so and show a good example. Sadly, too many churches have forgotten this and have become too judgemental (which is a sin. go figure)

    Jesus hung out with prostitutes, tax collectors, any and all sinners, because he loved everyone, regardless of their shortcomings. I like to think of Him as the ultimate hippie.

    I'm sure it's sounding like I'm a goody goody right-wing, born-again preacher, but I'm not. I'm a pot smoking, whiskey drinking bisexual who hasn't completely made up his mind about religion, but I sure as hell make sure I research what I talk about before making false statements or generalizations about it.
     
  12. Last Stand

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    Oh Boy!.
     
  13. HippieLngstckng

    HippieLngstckng Bringer of DOOM!!!

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    Gentlemen:


    While I agree that Jesus was very much the Ulitmate Hippie who loved everyone in spite of themselves or their faults, I feel the need to interject that The Last Supper was a traditional Jewish Passover meal, a.k.a. the Seder. Nothing about it is fancy - It's a rather simple meal, where each item eaten has a special significance to the Passover.

    The traditional Seder meal items are listed below. Please note that none of these items are particularly extravagant, except for the meat, which is necessary for sacrifice anyways, according to my people's tradition. Enjoy!

    Seder Plate
    A special Seder Plate is displayed during the Seder, containing the key symbolic foods of Passover. The following items appear on the Seder Plate:

    • Three whole Matzahs or unleavened "bread" (either on the plate or next to it)
    • Maror or bitter herbs, usually horseradish or romaine lettuce
    • Charoset or special mixture of apples, nuts, wine and cinnamon symbolizing mortar
    • Karpas a vegetable such as parsley or celery
    • Zero`a or a piece of roasted or boiled meat or poultry, traditionally a shankbone, recalling the Paschal sacrifice of the original Exodus. Before the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple the Paschal lamb was the central feature of the Seder.
    • Beitzah or a roasted or boiled egg, commemorating the festival sacrifice that was brought at the Jerusalem Temple. An egg is used because it is a traditional food for mourners, reminding us of the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem.
    • Other items may be placed on Seder plates depending on the customs followed by the family/participants.
     
  14. Gh0sTiNnyc

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    whatever ya'll want to do is fine with me...

    just don't impead on my right to do the same....
     
  15. Last Stand

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    No wonder Hitler was right bombing London after all.
     
  16. lemonboy

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    well i think it's sort of judgemental to DEFINE it as a sin, because, from what i've heard, there's nothing in the bible that says that directly, however i do not think it would have been judgemental for him to have said he thinks it's a sin.
     
  17. Green

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    Its either that or conforming.
     
  18. zpiper

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    I personally am not offended... but I know some people that would be...
     
  19. Raspberrykoolaid

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    i dont think that it is a sin, but in the bible it is a sin.... i believe that love is love no matter if it comes from someone of the same gender or a different gender, it wont change the felling of love or the meaning.. so it shouldnt be considered a sin.
     
  20. Last Stand

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    Tell that to the church. oh dont do it on a lonely rural road at night.
     

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