homosexuality and evolution

this is all very interesting. to tell you the truth i htink i agree with johnny6. thats not to say casey doesnt have a point. but i think if your theory is right - that the "gay gene" has been passed on due to social unacceptance - we should soon see a rapid reduction in the gay population.

sorry, i think your argument is a little sparse. it doesnt, as johnny6 said, take in other variables. i personally think ts a mixture of nature and nurture, but more nurture.

'learned' is definately not the right word. you havent 'learned' it as such, you have been conditioned through your experiences of life in your early years to think a certain way.

for example, i have two older brothers who annoyed me when i was younger. so to me, boys were an annoying distraction. but they were my only role models (apart from my parents) so i became a bit of a tomboy. both my grandmothers and my only aunt were divorced, indicating to me as a child that men werent people that you could spend intimate time with for a long time. although my parents are still together, my dad didnt spend as much time in my upbringing as my mum.... etc etc etc

thats is not to say there ISNT a gay gene: my uncle on my dad's side was gay and my dad's cousin's son (my generation) is also gay, and ofcourse so am i.

but im glad, as someone said earlier, that people havent concluded on this subject because id rather them not find a biological reason for my sexuality.

 

thats not entirely true. im gay and i agree with her. lol

i think bisexual people are marginally misunderstood by straight people and gay people, and they have a higher and more mature way of approaching sexuality. why arent i bisexual then? dunno. my mind's open, but im sorry, at the moment im not into guys.

 

I wasn't meaning that no other factors have played their part in homosexuality. I just figured that it would also make sense that if there was to be a gene factor then it has been helped greatly by social factors. I am of course just speaking for myself because i only know myself but in my own case i know its not conditioning. If it were then it would stand to reason that i would be straight as both of my parents are homophobic to some degree and when i was very young and in hindsight experiencing the first signs of attraction to the same sex, i had a very stable home life and if anything i was actively discouraged from having anything other than a 'normal' life. I dated guys for a good few years and thought nothing of it, as it was 'normal'. It wasn't until i got a bit older and realised i was attracted to girls that i realised i had never been attracted to guys in the first place. I agree that different people have reasons for sexuality and i personally don’t have a reason as such, other than that’s just the way i am. I have questioned it time and time again but come to the same conclusion.

 

Well personally I believe it is part nature, part nuture. There's a good chance I would never have come out as bi had I not been brough up in an open and understanding society. Ha, I do believe that everyone is bi really, or has the potential to be, it just seems a bit uncomprehensible to me to write off half the population, because, really, maybe you just haven't met the right guy or girl. But yes, that is a bisexual person speaking, and I do appreciate that for gay (or straight) people those of the opposite (or same) sex just do nothing for them.
Getting back to the subject....
People can quite commonly have crushes on people of the same sex when growing up, which can easily be dismissed and probably were in the past, but these crushes can develop because society is far more accpeting and perhaps even encouraging these days. [I think I made a thread on this a long while back.]

I also don't believe that the 'gay gene' is not being passed on, quite a large number of gay people do have children anyway, and in the past when almost all gay people were in the closet, they all had wives and children.

And yeah, that doesn't make sense, evolution doesn't work like that...just finished an A-level in it...can't be bothered to talk about it....

 

I myself also agree that it is part nature, part nurture. Id say i was a sensitive child but not feminish. Im not sure if there is such thing as the gay gene, but i think maybe sex cells carry sexual orientation you will be. maybe if its the wrong combination then u become gay or bi. and also it maybe for over population. obviously u have ruled out that there may be a god.