homeless people are people too

someone please lock this nuisance

 

but it's not fun anymore :-(

 

One, the main person I saw her get into it with was Quality and I really don't think too highly of that jackoff, truth be known.

If you're kicked out of your house you did not runaway. Period. Runaway is a term for people who get fedup with living under their parents and choose to leave, which often times does wind up with them living on the streets. To say that any underage person who is homeless is a runaway is a fucking joke and abuse of the english language.

I bitch about the boredom but I don't make it out to be a crisis by any means. It's a source of humor as I deserve everything I'm getting, just as she did. When your decisions directly effect your life you are, at that point, you're your own biggest problem. I don't claim that my hardships make me enlightened in any way or superior either.

I was hitting on the word anonymous. It doesn't take bravery, "balls", "guts" or nerve at all to talk and be open with a bunch of strangers who you don't have to look at face to face.

I only read the first two pages, really, and saw nothing spectacular. I also am noticing that since she was incapable of retorting the remarks I made you had to do it for her. How nice of you to play captain save a hoe.

Where I come from respect is never deserved and always earned. I don't give a fuck what you've been through it doesn't get you auto respect in my eyes.

You know as well as the rest that I'm one of the bigger fuck ups of the fora. I don't deny this, and I will not begin to pretend that I haven't made a shitload of mistakes myself. However, not once have you seen me blame the results of my poor decision making on somebody else. My parents kicked me out once for punching my brother in the face - my bad. I've got horrible credit because they offered to let me come home and use their car. Instead I couch surfed, got all of my valuables stolen, and bought a brand new car I couldn't support - my bad. There's 100 of things I've had to endure due to my own fucking poor decision making, but I don't make myself out to be an enlightened victim of tragic happenstance.

Narrow mindedness? I haven't once said I don't empathize with her, because that'd be a huge lie, but I think she needs to own up and assume some responsibility and accountability for her actions. Flat out, I think she's exaggerating some of these issues a bit too much, and refusing any sort of personal responsibility for her hardships. That and calling her narcisitic is all I've said. And the arrogance isn't necessarily a bad thing as we all know I'm pretty cocky myself.


Edit: I feel the same way about her situation as I do sunburns and hangovers. No pity for self inflicted misery.

 

can i mention that i'm rather proud at my TOTAL ambivalence to this whole thread. i'm only posting this because EVERYONE is here. AHAHAHAHAHA. *does the happy dance & sings* i didn't get dragged iiiiin, i didn't get dragged iiiinnn...i'm so grown up...

 

really? i read .05% of it and found it tedious

 

i think it's only fun if you're involved, or totally above it all like my esteemed self.

 

There will be many people here that love you including me. I dont like to see the people on the streets abused or neglected in any way, you are right everybody deserves a second chance. I saw a very sad show one night where a group of guys with a baseball bat went up to some homeless person and beat them to death for nothing, Made my stomach turn. I hope you get your apartment soon, You are on my buddies list.

 

Well thank you professor. Over the course of obtaining your vast linguistic expertise have you ever come across the word "lexicon"?

And if someone came on and said "quit whining, you're an idiot for getting yourself in that mess" I guess you'd say "Gee, I guess your right. thanks for taking the time to straighten me out"?

Sorry but if I had a kid for everytime I had unpretected sex I could start my own area code.

If you think any 16 yr old girl who gets in trouble deserves to be abandoned by her boyfriend and kicked out on the streets by her religious nut parents I hope you're not planning on having any kids.

Still waiting for someone to show me where she did that.

Well duh. Why do you think we're all here? Why are all the lepers pointing at the new kid and saying "Go away, you have a zit".

Cheap shot man. I'm just here to take care of her light work.

hoe? How many women do you know (or men for that matter) who could go a cpl days without eating and still say no to some creep with a cheesburger in one hand and a motel key in the other (and I'm guessing the pull a knife and "how about I keep the money and you get to keep both of your ears" option wasn't her thing)?

And she's got mine ( but then after the surplus I took back from some of the other people in here over the course of this thread I had a bunch to spare).

It's not what you've been through it's how you handle it.

Show me where she has.

again I don't see where she has. And I'm pretty sure if someone came into one of your threads and said the same things about you you just said about yourself we'd wind up with a thread like this one's turned into

She wasn't looking for pity she was just telling her story. and I'm still baffled by just about everybody I thought I knew in here.

 

That I haven't, but I will definitely look it up immediately. I like new words. Heard it before, never knew what it meant.

More like, "Well aren't you captain obvious? Care to throw out something I haven't figured out already?"

I'm pretty sure if her parents are religious nuts she had a decent idea of how they'd react. In fact, I'm guessing the first thought on her mind was something along the lines of, "Oh, shit. My parents are going to flip."

Right, but nobody else is being called brave or strong for 'telling their story'. You're missing the points here because your looking for where I"m being an asshole instead of looking at what I'm saying.

I think you know I'm not an average, ignorant flamer, and hardly lightwork of any kind; as I make great use of logic and will argue a point until somebody is ready to quit.

I could've just as easily said 'captain save a bitch'. I'd like to think you truly understood the reference I was making, and didn't truly assume I was referring to somebody I didn't know as premiscuous.

I hope you've talked to her indepth and not throwing around your respect like it doesn't mean anything. To respect somebody, over the internet, because of a couple paragraphs they've typed is silly in my opinion.

They're all factual things. The only things I let get to me are the things that aren't true. I don't care about my credit. I'm allowed an "oops I fucked up"(bankruptcy) so it's no big deal and I'm already establishing a positive credit history with a new credit card and cell phone contract. You have to attack my personality pretty absurdly or flat out lie about me to truly get under my skin.

I'm calling bullshit here. The title of the thread is "homeless people are people too", yet 99% of the original post was about her. There are hundreds of thousands of homeless people that she could've gone into depth about. I'm sure she met other homeless people while being homeless. She could've told their story along with hers, but did she? No. She bitched and whined about how horrible it was for her and how it was in no way her fault because everybody treated her unfairly. She chose to sleep with an asshole. She chose to have an abortion. Her decisions bit her in the ass. Boo-fucking-hoo. And what saved her ass? A free handout from (I believe it was) a stranger. Sure takes some of the struggle right out of it, now doesn't it?


Edit: If you're baffled by my response, you're slow to catch on.

 

Lexicon: A dictionary - cute.

edit:

While we're at this

runaway: Escaping or having escaped restraint, captivity, or control: runaway horses; runaway children.

 

a Lexicon is a speicies of slang specific to a sub-culture, ie, "Groovy" "Far out" were part of the 60s hippy lexicon.

Either that or it's someone from Lexico.

What's your point here? Do 16 yr olds who are getting ready to have sex usually sit down and say "Well lets look at this from all the angles and reveiw what the possible consequences might be"?

Again, you never had unpretected sex as a kid huh? If you get away with something does that mean you get to look down on someone who didn't?

Ever drive drunk? Me too.
Ever cause an accident and kill someone while you were driving drunk?
Me either.
Should we go find someone who did and call him a murderer?

so sumarise for me.

I don't see anything logical about the stance you're taking on this one.

I respect her because of the way she's handled some of the idiots who decided to stop by and unload a lot of undeserved self righteous crap in her lap.

Well bingo. "Whore" "Whiner" "self-superior"--all unfounded bullshit.

Yes, like the two friends she found hanging from a bridge. She put that out there and everybody said "so what"?

She's telling alot of people's story. she's just doing it in the first person because she can.

How about backing this up with a cpl quotes?

Yeah, lucky for us women do that.

Tell me what you think a 16yr old pregnant homeless girl should have done?

Nobodies ever helped you huh?

Most people who wind up on the street never get out no matter how many people try to help them.

People who want to help are more common then you might think.
People who make them glad they did are pretty rare.

 

anonymousgurl21-

Thank you for your response to my post. A more detailed reply will be PMed to you shortly.

peace

 

Dictionary.com lied to me then.

I'm not judging her for getting pregnant. I'm judging her appearant complaint of the consequence. Like I said, you're overlooking the point and focusing on where I'm being an asshole.

No I haven't, actually. Never had more than a beer and drove. 'Cept one time waaaayy out in the boonies with supervision at 3:00am. And if somebody gets drunk, hits a car and kills somebody, I will call them an ignorant murderer without question.

You don't see how it's logical that I don't feel bad for somebody who dug themselves a whole and struggled to get out of it? I'm dissapointed.




I respect her because of the way she's handled some of the idiots who decided to stop by and unload a lot of undeserved self righteous crap in her lap.

Did I call her a whore? She was whining and the self superior thing is a subjective matter that's based on interpretation. You just happen to interpret her attitude differently than I do. There's no 'correct' response on that one, and I'm hoping your smart enough to know that.

I've seen 2 people killed. So what? Shit happens. Did it hurt me, yes. Do I expect others to feel bad for myself or my friends? No. Here's why: I chose to be a part of a potentially disasterous situation as did they. We all got what was coming to us. I love them, and I miss them, but everything that happened was due to poor, personal decision making. No questions asked. Doesn't mean I wouldn't take it back if I could.... doesn't mean it hurts any less, but it does mean that it was self inflicted; same thing goes with her friends.



She's telling alot of people's story. she's just doing it in the first person because she can.

I may have misread, and I will re-read to make sure I haven't, but I was under the impression that she was kicked out for having the abortion. Not for getting pregnant. Again, this may be a misread on my part. And I will adjust my stance and retract my statements accordingly.

I've earned my way through damn near everything I've gotten my whole life. People have "helped" me by letting me sleep on their couch and shower in their home for a small fee. They've "helped" me by turning me onto jobs. When I was sleeping in my car going from couch to couch going hungry for days at a time, nobody gave me anything. I'm not bitter about it because I wouldn't even ask for a freebie.

Regardless of what you think of my attitude and opinion of this girl, I'm one of the ones that helps. Constantly. I never ask for anything in return. I help anybody that needs it, whether I like them or not. And I constantly "loan" people money for shit(bills, food, rent) that I know they'll never pay back because they'll never be able to.

Edit: She does say that she chose to get the abortion before she was thrown out of her home.

 

Wow. I can't believe I've read this whole thing (intermitantly throughout the day). I laughed. I cried. I vomited.

 

"the voice of reason, at last! you're my hero! anybody that thinks somebody would "choose" to be an addict, is either a major GWB supporter (sure don't want to have to pay higher taxes to help low life scum drug addicts get healthy, and live productive lives), or else they get some kind of warped sense of superiority by deluding themselves into thinking that only "weak" people get hooked to drugs."

Here's a quote for you naykid. Just because quality disagreed with her stance on drug addiction he instantly has a warped thought process. If you want this charade to continue I can pick apart every last thing that was said, but hopefully this will suffice as being an asshole of my caliber is tedious work.

 

Maybe try wikipedia.

"but i made some way bad mistakes in my life" "I let my boyfreind..."

Looks like you're overlooking the parts where she's owning her mistakes, the prevalent theme of her story, and focusing on.... (?)

Guess I chose the wrong hypothetical then. you still haven't answered the actual question.

who's asking you to feel bad? What I consider illogical is your whole "this thread is a plea for pity" attitude (yeah I know that's not an actual quote, just summing things up) or why someone who see's it that way would bother to post in here to begin with.

didn't say you did. I was just pointing out that most of what attitude she wound up showing in here was in response to statements like that.

Still, you must be basing your interpretation on something, all I'm asking is "show me".

One: Yeah, but if I said "Nobody wants to hear about this shit" it would still make me an asshole, wouldn't it?

Two: It's all a moot point unless you can show me where she was asking for pity.

Three: If you can honestly tell me that the first reaction you have to hearing about two kids hanging from a bridge is "Well it's their own damn fault" then I'll back off (slowly).

Now we're splitting hairs.

If that's all true I would think you'd see the things you have in common with this woman, instead of looking for or (gotta say it) fabricating reasons to judge her.

 

Actually, quality does have a warped thought process.

One or two that actually mean something would do.

Look, all I'm asking is forget about all the bullshit fallout from all the ego contests in this thread and go back and read her story again

 

Anoymous girl- this is a public apology from me for attacking your IQ comment right off the start of things without fully reading your thread and thinking before I posted.

I know I pm'd you right afterwards to tell you why- that you reminded me of me and sometimes that hurts. Also, I knew what was gonna happen cause anyone who says too much here gets ganged up on.

Quality is also sorry too and I'm glad you saw that later on.

That said- I'm gonna send you another pm. Keep being strong and dont' ever let assholes get to you.

 

Focusing more on her attitude towards others that did not show empathy to her story. Each person that agreed with her stance on anything was a, "voice of reason". This is covered in one of the following posts I made right after the one you just quoted.

You're right. I didn't directly answer the question. I do not look down on her for having unprotected sex. Admittedly I have done that. Bear in mind I did not have sex until I was almost 18; I actually did sit down and think through the consequences. Didn't like them so I stuck with getting blowjobs as long as possible.

Because that's my opinion. That's the point of posting a public thread is to create a discussion. I don't have to agree with the opinion stated or like the person talking to be a part of the discussion do I?

I think she actually started with the attacks because of quality stating that addiction is, to an extent, a choice.

Look a few posts up and you'll see a direct quote where she refers to quality as having to be a political extremist or have a warped mind.

One: Yes it would but I've never said that myself and the others weren't assholes. Just said that she's the one who started it and then took the high road. And once again I've backed that up with a direct quote as stated above.

Two: I can't prove she was, and you can't prove she wasn't. Subjective matter, as I said.

Three: Is that my first reaction? No. Is it part of my initial reaction, yes. The thought process went something like this, "Two more wasted lives. That's a shame, but they brought it on themselves. Atleast this may remind people what hard drugs can do". I'm sorry two young lives were wasted, but I don't in any way give a shit that two crackheads killed themselves.

I didn't fabricate anything but an opinion based on her overall attitude and the fact that the more people argued with her the more she began bragging on herself. To me it had a "look at me, I'm so great" feel to it. I'm cynical. I don't take anything at face value. If you do, than cool. We just have two different outlooks. Doesn't mean I've fabricated anything.

 

I'm well aware. You and I are basing this opinion off a longer history of reading his posts. She took one statement, and in a closedminded fashion dismissed it as twisted, when it truly does hold some water.

The original story does sound deserving of an expose on lifetime real women or some shit like that. I'm not denying the fact that she may have had to go through rough times. I'm not denying that it's admirable that she went from being homeless to back in college and actually trying to be productive. I will deny to the end that I feel sorry for her self inflicted troubles. Put it this way:

I feel as sorry for her as I do for myself........