Hmmm....

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by Hairbear, Aug 27, 2005.

  1. Hairbear

    Hairbear Member

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    I dont get it..why are words words...who desides to call them words and where did they all come from...i mean...you cant just make up a word and say thats a word and from now on it shall be known as a word...i mean...argh...isnt this confusing to any one else....or maybe you dont think about it....why do things look like they do and why are sounds like they are...

    and for one...why do people hate each other over sound...one person likes one type of sounds and the other likes another...yet because of this reason they dont like each other....

    I find this world very confusing and funny...and i dont get any of it...how about you?
     
  2. surfn hippie

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    wtf huh? im confused???
     
  3. StonerBill

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    i think developed languages may have come after writing was established.
    simple vocal communication first, like specialised warning calls, or indication of various resources.
    when writing was established, it had to follow structure. people would have already had vocal sounds worked out, so different sounds would be attributed to different runes. vocalisation, now combined with structure would have led to people just making up words.

    i think it really might have been very sudden. people suddenly deciding to assign words to things that previously had no word.

    i mean, think about it, language was at some point a completely new fronteer. just like people give names to places using conventions, people would have given names to objects. then when writing conventions came around, grammatical symbols would have been given names.

    i wonder what they called teh dude who first decided to use language. even if it started in lots of places.. it would have had to start somewhere.

    he was a cool dude

    mind you this is speculation. but thats how id imagine it to be. words would have been used to represent a tonne of things... but actual language would then have come when writing/symbols were used, and from there, grammatical terms would have started, and then gramatical terms would have been integrated into objectual or verbal words to make more specific terms.

    inn ffffaaact, the determination of words may have come from the name of the man who invented them. im sure in a community, people would have had names. names could be anything. maybe names were that person's favourite sound that they would make, perhaps as a baby. maybe names came from combinations of existing words.

    but mostly, words are developed through period of written and non written times. a word would be developed.. then linguisticallyt modified.. then turned into writing in new ways from how it previously was.


    but yeh these are all jsut thoughts, ill stop now
     
  4. StonerBill

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    oh and people hate eachother over sounds? people can come to dislike others over ANY preference.
    preference ties in with belief
    belief is part of survival, your belief is your reality. people with other beliefs can be seen as threats because they could perhaps spread their belief to take over yourse (which would be taking over your REALITY!!)
     
  5. Hairbear

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    Yeah but its the simple thing as a sound...the thing that was first invented...well one of then first...I mean with out sound the world is nothing...and people disliking other people over that matter...its just weird to me....anyways i thought i would just get a bit of discuasion going and put a weird thought on here...:D you know how it is
     
  6. StonerBill

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    heaps of animals make sounds

    the structure of our throat and tongue allows us to make more sounds than many animals

    however, birdsongs are more like laughing and crying for humans (and for mating), whereas talking is like when your cat cries out for you to open your door

    animals make sounds for needs. one bird might have a song it plays to attract females. the cat meows because cats dont have that many variables in their lives that depend on other cats, so all they need to do it meow to get teh attention of other cats
    humans however need to be able to identify lots of things.
    just like someone had to invent morse code for signalling with the technology avaiable, humans had their voices avaiable, so they linked sound to meaning

    it probably started with immitations of other sounds?

    maybe studying parrots could allow us to work out more..
     
  7. Hairbear

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    Well no questioning that...you seem to know what your talking about...:D
     
  8. somethingwitty

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    Actually, if you're really interested I'd suggest going to a library and looking up eytmology. You will be amazed and astounded at how in depth some of the research has gone.
    Haha, I tend to wander through libraries and pick up what looks interesting.
     
  9. StonerBill

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    i just wish a lot of research was compressed caus theres so much stuff that isnt interesting amongst a lot of books
     
  10. Hairbear

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    Yeah i know what you mean
     
  11. randy

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    lot sof research yes


    it took a lonnnnnnnnnng time to develop speech and brains to use it and to make the first language let alone the thousands of others there are/were

    its crazy

    i dont ponder about speech and our ability to have developed and use languages and such like i do about our existence and etc.

    hum
     
  12. Hairbear

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    and why not?[​IMG] but hey i never have anything better to do:D
     
  13. Bocks

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    I see what you mean. It's funny to think that words can create such controversy, too. If you look at the word "fuck", it's a mere four letters that can mean absolutely nothing at all, and yet people get REALLY upset about that word. It's the same with gestures. A backwards peace sign can be seen as a friendly derogatory gesture or an expression of hatred. Yet, if you turn it around, it means "peace". Words are words. I think they're only a medium for communication, and a particularly useful one at that, but nothing more.
     
  14. Bocks

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    Apparently, in countries where there is a minor secondary language that existed before the dominant language, people are hired by universities to make up word in order to allow for technological advances, and such. I mean, the Maoris never had the words "radio waves" before some people at some university made on up for them.
     

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