History is a Crock

It seemed like another on of these made up on the spot statistics.

 

History as we know it was written by White people basically. If you go through history with a fine tooth comb you can easily see the truth of the matters. However yea your 11th grade History class is a crock. Mostly because in ancient history, they first off SKIP Over Africa, or have one chapter devoted to them. They also never mention my hero, the biblical King Nimrod, or for that matter tell any truth of The ancient world, and how basically ever since Babylon the same stories, have been retold applying to their own times.

 

history isnt crock, human recording of history is crock. to have accurate history is very good, to have innacurate history is just a different type of history, one that cant be used as a source directly. The problem with history is that NOT ENOUGH is done to keep accuracy. people think history is bunk and they end up leaving history in the hands of people who know the power of keeping control over history. there needed to be more recording of history in the days of old. nowadays though, a lot of records are kept, all over the world.

 

Do you know me like you ask if I know you? How do you know I "made it up on the spot"? Do you know me? And again, even though I spelled it out for you in the second post....I wasn't claiming it as a statistic. HOW COULD I know a statisctic that measures the amount of something I claim to be UNKNOWN? Forgive me for assuming its your age that keeps you from comprehending my words, but you clearly do not.

You call that positive input? Telling me my point of view is bullshit? The spelling of mad is mad not made. I know that you say history is a series of events misenterpreted by people. I say that most of the events that have happened in the past are no longer known to our generation. Our points are not against eachother but you tell me i'm full of shit. I never said you were full of shit and MY point doesn't deny yours. The problem is that YOU try to deny mine because your more worried about being RIGHT then about WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. So once again if your so brilliant maybe you'd know that THE SMARTEST MAN IS THE ONE WHO CLAIMS IGNORANCE.........when you get to college you may read that.

 

If your going to go along that way, then the only thing that isn't a crock of shit is maths. Go maths! Wahoo!

 

Looks to me what you're calling History is pretty primative. Just a list of happenings? The discipline of History is a lot more complicated than that.

But anyway, the rest of you, leave the poor lamb alone!
If you're nice to it you can start influencing it and molding it's opinions

yeah - 'it' cause i forget whether you're he or a she. And if you're annoyed about people commenting on your age, take some advice from something older and wiser ( ); get rid of it in your profile.

 

Maybe what I said about history is "a bit primitive", but history really is just a series of events. I'm sorry that I made a typo and spelled mad like made. You have to be pretty out of it to think that I don't know how to spell basic words and the fact that you're pointing something like that out to make me look stupid shows that your whole arguement is abunch of shit. "How do you know I made it up on the spot?" Because it was a ridicolous statement to make. 99% of history is false? That's how I knew. I understand now that you were just kidding. My apologies on that part of it. For the record, I never called your opinion "bullshit" and I respect your opinion just like every one else's.

So, that about sums it up. You said 99%, I said no, you got mad and blamed my age. Sorry.

 

I also never claimed to be brilliant either. I'll go with you on this and say that I am human and only 14...I know I have alot to learn about alot of things.


I also know that alot of events our unknown to our generation. I understand that there was a time before written history. I'm not brilliant but I'm not a moron either.

 

yep!

 

Is an incomplete record better or worse than no record?

What exactly is meant when something is said to be "a crock"?

 

I'm not out of it and I didn't point it out to make you look stupid.....you're responses have done that already. I pointed it out to highlight your age. There is a difference between being naive and being stupid and I'd say you are naive.

HOW EXACTLY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE??? HA HA HA HA HA HA

Actually this was my original post " 99% of history is unrecorded or unknown.........let alone a crock!!!"

Notice how 1. I don't use the word false I use the words unrecorded and unknown. How can this be any clearer??????? 2. I was kidding about the 99% part only! Once again it was obviously a joke because I assigned a number value to something I said was UNKNOWN OR UNRECORDED. 3. Notice how the .......let alone a crock part is SUPPORTING YOUR STATEMENT!!!!

Actually you did when you typed this in direct reference to my post....

I actually blamed your inability to comprehend what I wrote...........
Does your age and education factor in, HELL YEAH and you'd be STUPID to deny that!

 

I didn't say that your particular post was bullshit, I just said that most statistics were made up at the moment and/or are bullshit. Once again, I DIDN'T KNOW THE 99% PART WAS A JOKE. I've said that I didn't know that you were joking yet you continue to critiscize what I'm saying. I even apologized in my lat post, said that I had alot to learn and said my age did have something to do with that! I openly admitted all of this then you still won't accept it.

Look man, it all comes down to this. I said that history isn't a crock, the interpretations are a crock...we agree on this...I think.

You said that 99% was unrecorded....I didn't know the 99% portion ofthat was just a joke... so i said it was untrue... we started arguing.

So, once again, I'm apologizing to you and saying that I didn't know you were joking around with the statistics. I once again am saying that I am only 14 and only human, so I have alot to learn...we all do.

 

I think it would be a good idea if this site had a spell checker that would question every use of the word "you." That would help folks avoid giving unintentional offence, which would reduce the number of ad hominim quarells.

 

good idea, this is tiring as hell.

 

don't fret little buddy.........
the ferocity came from and went out with the debate.......
we're all good!

 

nice

 

Yay! love in the world again.

Now... let's create some historically worthy massacres!

 

Lmfao

 

i hated the study of history when i was in highschool, percisely because of the distortions precipitated by the 'christian, roman, greek' centric perspective it insisted on taking. acknowledging in passing that other lines of cultural evolution were taking place simultaniusly but refusing to fallow or present them in any rational manor, and never more then as a side bar.

to say that history itself is a crock is rather a broad statement. i have to aggree that the way it was, and however much that way may have chainged in fine detail, in all likely hood is still being, TAUGHT in american public (and probably even worse in private ones), filled to overflowing with distortions, and no shortage of outright lies as well.

there were people and cultures here where i live in the western hemisphere for tens of thousands of years, and what are we taught of ANY of their true histories?

so rome was a big deal super power, created by headonists and destroyed by christians, although they don't really tell you even that. no they don't ever dare put it that way at all. well ok. they can have that.

but if you're going to teach me about the past, and try to pretend it's the whole past and all of it that mattered, then tell me about druids, and everyday life in minoen crete, about ancient empires in india and poland and mongolia. never mind telling me the great khan invaded europe or hannibal sent elephants over the alps, tell me about what any of these things meant really ment to the people living where they came from. tell me about hannibal's second cousin's wives or the copper smiths who fassioned the copper caldron that was unearthed at gundistrop. that's what i want to hear about. not what nero ate for breakfast, or some carthigian general.

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certain history is more pertinent to individuals. Do you think the history of America is more important to an American than say the history of lesotho?

Of course it is. Now extend that back...is the history of rome/greece more pertinent than say kenya to an American? Yep, sure is.