Hipsters?

I think when you look at any subculture it looks shallow because anything that can describe a whole group of people would describe a shallow individual. But the values that a group leans towards or shares can be evaluated. True hippies for example have a common value of accepting nature and others as what they are, and loving peace, they can be naive, lazy and other bad things but at least the core value is good. Scenes and Hipsters seem to have a core value which at best is individuality, but it manifests as elitism and self promotion so much that it's hard to respect it.

 

How can any subculture be individualistic? It's a group of people who are all similar in this or that way. Be it style, creed, or a little of each.

If anything, the mainstream is far more-so, because it can incorporate members of any subculture, or people who lie between specific cultures.

 

That's an interesting thought. I dress in a style that could be called mainstream and I always find the idea that mainstream style means you are a "sheep" a "robot" or a tool is incredibly simple minded. Maybe I wear normal clothes because they are readily available and I am an interesting enough person that I don't need my clothes to make me seem interesting. A person can do, think, and create interesting things while having a regular haircut and wearing jeans and a t-shirt.

 

I have always found it hilarious to see scenekids like goths, emo's etc. express their individuality by wearing stereotypical outfits bought straight from the goth and/or emo store. Perhaps this counts even more for their so called original haircuts. Have to admit though, the first one was quite original indeed :biggrin:

 

This thread is full of irony, oxymorons, double negatives, misinterpretations.... damn it's intense.

Like how that one guy said that the "hip" in "hipforums" stands for "hippies"... but then right in the forum categories, "Hippes" is listed under "Hip Communities"...... and by termonology aren't "hipsters" and "hippies" the same thing? I mean... the only difference is one was the 60s? Back then, hippies and hipsters would be classified as the same? Both are trying to be "hip" with their peers... and my mind is all crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy... they got me thinkin I aint human like I came from up above, above, above, above.... but really they are the ones who are lame, lame, lame, lame... i got the last laugh nigga... i be that man on the moon...

 

You're really bad at trying to sound intelligent.

No hipsters and hippies are not anything alike. Except that they are both subcultures, and followings.

They are separated by decades of culture, tons of philosophy (or lack thereof); hell, just about every facet (besides the sheepish following-thing) is completely different.

Long hair; 80s sunglasses
Damn the man; Abercrombie & Fitch
Drop LSD and hang out with nature and your guitar; drink Pabst, hang out at a bar listening to shitty indie bands play on their synths

Everyone's trying to be hip; like you, right now, trying to prove you can out think people, by trying to say the thread is ironic.

 

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He's pretty much using the same technique Jeff Goldblum or Nick Cage use to try to sound intelligent, fast rambling, asking open ended questions that are supposed to sound clever. But at least as far as I know they never say "nigga", and that lowers the bar a few notches.

 

Jeff Goldblum talks slow and pauses a lot too. And he can be witty on the late night shows....

I think I wanna pay him to say nigga though.

 

I feel like hipsters are more of a branch or the scene/emo crowd than the 21st hippies. I feel like they're a little to nihilistic and dark to be hippes.

 

I wonder what you would call a young hippie. I often get labeled as a hipster, because people say true hippies are only the ones from the 60s. But I feel as though I have mroe of a hippie ehart, than the stereotypical hipster who is all about their ego. I guess that was egotistical of me to say though

 

haha Nah, I feel you on the whole stereotypical hipster being ego-focused. Hipsters are definitely not hippies. A big fundamental difference is hipsters don't want to be mainstream, while hippies do. I feel like hippies dig music back when mainstream music was a good thing. Bands like The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, etc. Hippies want to spread peace and love as far as possible. A lot of hippies also care about mind expansion and psychedelic culture, which hipsters aren't into. Hipsters seem to care more about expanding their wardrobe and image.

This forum stands as a good example of the word "hip" being used for hippies. But something that ticks me off is how the word "hip" these days is now being used to refer to "hipsters". And I get pissed when Animal Collective, one of my favourite bands, gets flooded with hipster comments on YouTube. Hipsters have no idea about psychedelic music, nor do the people commenting take the lyrics into account.

I feel like a lot of people these days get pissed at having things labeled as hipster. It's so superficial.

And we shouldn't be limited based on the time period we were born in. Although we're scattered around, there are plenty of hippies these days our age. We can make the change now.

 

I think it just comes from a sheltered suburban lifestyle and therefore is just a little naive. I personally don't encounter hipsters too much because I guess I just go places they wouldn't. I don't like humor that is entirely based on irony and pop culture references. Not trying to generalize, but that has been my experience. I'm sure there are pleasant hipsters out there.

 

I've never encountered a douchey hipster, but my friends have a general dislike toward them. Mainly because of the "hipsters" egotistical entitled thoughts. I do have friends who would fit the hipster cliches yet are wonderful people (they also wouldn't call themsevles "hipsters"/dislike "hipster"). We are all just people when it come down to it.

Piper I argee with you man. A lot of things are considered "hipster" & are frowned upon (or looked upon!) I find the phrase hipster funny now cause Kerouac, Cassidy & Burroughs & all them were considered hipsters or referred to hipsters....which of course were nothing like the modern day hipsters. A good friend referred to himself as a hipster, (the room gasped) only to go in detail as a beat-hipster, and not the hipster of our day.

I'm also all done for change man, it'd be wonderful to hit the 60's & check them out, but I'm here now!

 

Be careful when judging people just by their outward appearances though. I myself wear a lot of clothes that are considered hipster fashion and listen to indie music, but I am definitely not a hipster! A hipster would do those things solely because they are different, I do them because I really really like them! I'd say I am much closer to a hippie than a hipster.

 

see, a couple years ago, a hipster was the artistic one in class, not very social, yet could easily get along with anyone, probably played a variety of instruments and had a unique style whether from thrift shopping or online or whatever. but NOW, you see the word hipster everywhere.. it's like.... if you're different in any type of way you're a hipster. if you don't look like every other kid at your college, yep, you're a hipster. but it's bullshit, because the word has lost its meaning. hipsters don't want to be categorized, don't want to fit it, but now you've got all these people throwing the word around... it's the equivalent of all the low-lifes who moved to san francisco back during the summer of love who only wanted to take advantage of people... call them hippies too?

 

Yeah, I bet that ticks off a lot of people. You're into something that's been around for a while, yet people call you "hipster" for it. I hate it when people do that. It's judgmental and stupid. And yeah, there's definitely good music out there that's considered indie these days.

In fact, my closest friend who's away in college is REALLY into indie music and styles, but I certainly wouldn't call him a hipster. I actually once called in on his college radio show to talk about the subject.

I get the feeling "hipsterism" is a fad that will die down soon. And I would definitely call myself a hippie. haha

 

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Most hipsters are totally egotistical, rude, snobby and stuck up people man. Although I have met some nice hipsters, allot of the ones I've spoken too are just lost or confused.. Don't know what they want in their life etc, which is why they just follow being a hipster.

I felt like that once, for a long time. Was bad stuff, but I got through it a much better person.. I just questioned everything, didn't blindly follow anything.