Most all forms of government would work if they were ruled by just people who had the welfare and best interests of all its people at heart . However that's not the case . As long as man rules for his own interests or the interests of the few over the many with dark corrupt greedy hearts , no form of government will ever be just on earth . As long as those in power of any governmnet who have the voice and say over those who don't and are willing through a class system to exploit those on the bottom no system or form of government will ever be just . I don't believe in communism nor capitalism , both in there current states are evil and unjust . At least our republic has a constitution , given to us by very wise men who knew very well of the injustices and evil of big government . Our problem is we don't demand and enforce it , or use it for change . And are happy to sit by while it's being subverted into all sorts of illegal nonsense and acts. Because we can't get our collective shit together and stand united together as one people .
Sigh. Okay PR, so Timothy Leary, Abbie Hoffman, Ken Kesey, the Black Panthers, Women's Lib, Martin Luther King, etc., etc., etc., were they in fact CIA double agents or were they mere puppets? I eagerly await your reply, this should be good.
I've heard this theory before and was given a link to the web site of a disgruntled hippy documenting it. Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation Part I tl;dr alert This is a fairly long read and is only part 1 of 21 (with 22 on the way). It will take you 5-6 hours to read all 21 parts.
Are you kidding me? Timothy Leary was knowingly working with the CIA. He even admitted this in an interview. Yes, Leary was a tool. So was Gloria Steinem, whose Ms. Magazine was bankrolled by the CIA. She admits this in her own memoirs. MLK had backing from the CPUSA, which was also aided by the CIA. Abbie Hoffman was an agent provocateur. The fact that he became sort of a household name is more or less proof he had the establishment's backing.
Another thing about this hippy movement... they did a similar thing when Rome was toppling. They encouraged decadence, drugs, promiscuity, etc. This sort of thing has been done throughout history and actually goes back to the Babylonian Isis cult rituals, which were like the Love-Ins of ancient times. The system loves establishment hippies who believe we're all one, because the people in control seek to make us one by erasing our individuality by promoting collectivism and conformity through fear and force. Just read this quote from Huxley, taken from the foreword to Brave New World:
The irony of that statement is... ironic. Some people (myself included, to an extent) have a sort of idealistic egalitarian picture of "communism." There really are a myriad different perspectives on it. Not the least of which, of course, is Marxism. But the historical perspective (as Pressed Rat points out) is most relevant to *this* discussion, because the CIA might be motivated to move society in a direction of less personal freedom more government control of wealth (essentially replace all the big money corporations with USGOV) Economics is all BULLSHIT by the way; it's just a very complex system of false premises.
Like everything else the proof is there , in histories written pages . If you research enough you will usually find some truths to what you seek . Start by checkig out project MK-ULTRA , started in the 50s - through the 70s , some believe it ended then , fraid not . project- blue beard project- artichoke and sadly the roots much longer into the past .
So the counterculture was infiltrated by the CIA, therefore it only follows that the counterculture was created by the CIA. What a leap of logic. The moon landing was fact, 9/11 was an outside job, and nobody created the hippie movement, it was a spontaneous rising of people in response to a society gone wrong. Let common sense prevail! Then again, this is the conspiracy forum where nothing is too outrageous. Just ask Elvis, the next time the aliens who abducted him give him a weekend furlough.
Wow, thank you everyone for all of your posts! i suppose we'll never know, and i have been a bit afraid of New Age and Eastern teachings, which i truly love but am a bit paranoid about the possibility of being brainwashed. It seems like most of those religions tell you that we must get rid of the ego and be one, but why can't we understand our oneness with everything, while manifesting our individuality? All i know for sure is that everything may be a conspiracy, but many of the oneness teachings, and SO many aspects of the hippie movement inspire me and bring me joy
If we REALLY understood our oneness with everything (not merely apprehended it as an idea, with our intellect, but truly grokked it), then we would express our individuality with no ego whatsoever. No action is inherently dharmic or adharmic. Outward behaviors can be conformist or they can be individualistic, but if the actor is identified being the do-er, or attached to the fruit of the action, it is an ignorant action. If the actor is free from ignorance and attachment, the action will be correct.