Hippie Advantageous Lifestyle Practices !

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by A.B.E., Mar 25, 2007.

  1. A.B.E.

    A.B.E. Member

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    This is so "right on" ! The public school indoctrination program works so well, people don't even realize what is happening to them. Many think of public school as a necessary part of socialization to make them ready to live properly in this world, to fit in with the mainstream. Is this what the "hippie" movement is all about. I don't think so ! ( Turn on, tune in, and drop out )

    In order to change things, people need to change, think for themselves, regulate themselves,( no RING-RING, DRILL-DRILL), learn the things they want to learn, when they want to learn them. When you are interested in something, you learn it and comprehend it, and you usually retain the information......

    ......And being with young people your same age all day is not a very realistic view of the world. My children went everywhere with me, and experienced a wide range of lessons, interacted with many diverse people of different age groups, and have adequate social skills, are street wise, and have extraordinary common sense.
     
  2. Freewheelin Franklin

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    Well, you don't know much, obviously. Do the teachers control the school administration? No. Do the teachers control the curriculum? No. Do the teachers even control how, when, and what to teach? No. Check out this essay: http://johntaylorgatto.com/hp/frames.htm
     
  3. Isil

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    Oh my hoot, I love you both.

    Your posts are very, very wise.

    The majority of the schools in this country (let alone the world) are nothing more then factories (as Freewheelin Franklin said), ment to churn out a finished product in a certain ammount of time.

    A favorable learning enviorment is where one can look into things on their own, without being forcefed information which isnt needed.

    I wish that schools would have a more diverse range of subjects, from which a student could pick what interests them most. Like you said A.B.E, when youre interested in something, you learn it and comprehend it.
     
  4. A.B.E.

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    What's wrong with feeling like a cow.? If you drink milk or eat any dairy products you should appreciate cows. What's unnatural about this relationship with dairy products, is cows milk is meant for cow babies, not humans.

    I really believe that most of any womans initial adverse reaction to breastfeeding comes from her upbringing, where breasts are only thought of as sexual,(breastfeeding is also sexual and sensual ), and not much is taught by word or example, that they are also a source of nourishment. This is a deep cultural indoctrination, and might be difficult for some to overcome.

    Mothers milk is the perfect food for babies, containing all the vitamins, nutritents, and natural antibiotics, and nothing you can buy can take the place of it. It also fosters a very strong bond between mother and child, a healthier oral orientation to life, and maintains that you, as a mother, stay with your child the first years of its life, guaranteeing all the nurturing a new life deserves.
     
  5. A.B.E.

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    Yes, hospitals are everywhere, but are not the ideal environment for the mother to give birth naturally, where she can feel calm and relaxed and bring her new child into the world without unnecessary interference. In "most" cases, birth can happen without any problems, and from my experience, home is the best place for a positive outcome. And...........

    ......"We don't want to get messy ????" Well don't have babies then at all, because birth is somewhat abundant in bodily fluids, and babies and children are "messy" from day 1.
     
  6. madlizard

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    I really don't know. I can easily be a very confused person, I can usually see a lot of gray area. It's so difficult to tell right from wrong sometimes. It really is..

    Well, let's see. Considering I have children, and all goes well, I know I will breast feed.

    As much as I have serious problems with trusting hospitals (what do they shoot us with in those "mandatory" injections?), I'm planning to be a nurse, and I'd probably feel safer giving birth in one because of potential problems with childbirth. I can understand the reasoning for a home birth quite well.. I just don't know if I'd be willing to risk my life as well as my child's.

    I know that schools want us to be sheep.. there's no doubt about it. I've argued this subject for years and years and I'm still not comfortable with the "BIG BROTHER" that is the education system. But.. if I had a child, I'd probably send them to a public school because it's impossible to shield yourself from society completely. You can take steps, you can always take steps.. you can become much more liberated than the average individual but in the end society still has an impact on you. Trust me, I try so hard.. but society still has an impact on me. Unless you are completely immersed in nature, a total virgin to manmade objects.. unless you're far, far away from anything touched by man.. you are still media's bitch SOMEHOW.

    The next thing I say, well, maybe it's my father's sense which is getting to me.. probably is.. but I've been taught that the best way to be happy in this society (and as corrupt as this society is, I still want happiness) is to try to get along with it.. fight it from the inside, per say. I guess that's what I have to do until I sort things out in my mind.

    I don't know what's right, really, but life is for learning.. I think that if I become a mother it will be the hardest task I have to face. Far harder than Peace Corps, far harder than trying to obtain a grain of GOOD knowledge from the education system, far harder than trying to be liberated in a world where it's impossible. I have a great deal of respect for all mothers and fathers who try as hard as they can. If I become a mother, and I don't know if I even want to raise a child in this cruel world, I want to do the best I know how to be.
     
  7. madlizard

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    I apologize for rambling so much; I do realize that I didn't say a lot worth value.. :&
     
  8. freeinalaska

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    Rubin, I must disagree with you on this one. Hospitals are full of sick and diseased people. You have way more of a chance of catching something there than home.

    Addressing the original post:

    All six of our children were a natural or home birth. One ended up a mad rush to the hospital down winding mountain roads since his big head on his 11 pound body got stuck in my 100 pound wife. Two others were natural births with a midwife in an alternative birthing center.

    All of our children were breastfed and have all turned out happy and healthy.

    We have used a mixture of homeschooling and public schools. At some point each of our older children expressed the desire to go to "real" school and we let them.

    Another important thing to us is the hometead we built ourselves that we continually get better at growing and providing for ourselves off the land.
     
  9. Duncan

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    Being gay and not in a relationship wherein children will spring forth, I'd have to say that the schoolin' and breastfeedin' aspect of hippie life(style) are probably not in the cards for this user.
    I recycle; cans, soap, glass. I extend the life of garments and furniture. I keep local workers employed.
    I grow fruit and vegetables. When I have abundance I make sure to share it with the neighbors. I also make a lot of juice. Working up to home made tofu one fine day :)
     
  10. Box Of Rain

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    mmm that caught my eye. tabouli is sooooo good.
     
  11. Kittymoose*

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    Here's my take:

    1. I definately want my children born at home or under similar conditions. You have to take into consideration, as well, that midwives also undergo lots of medical schooling in order to become trained midwives. I'd trust that she'd know what she was doing, and if complications arise, know when to tell me to go to a hospital. Having my children born at home is important to me because I'd be under less stress in a comfortable environment (hospitals freak me out) and then I can say to my children "this is your home. you were born here." It's just special to me.

    2. My children will also definately be breastfed. I see it as the most natural form of food for a baby (we have milk for a reason). Also, I probably won't ever give my kids any form of dairy product either. Being that my long-term boyfriend and I are both lactose intolerant, why would we even have it in the house? Besides, I see it as kind of wierd to drink another animal's milk. The only concern I would have is that it tends to run in my family that not enough milk is produced. Then again, I'm quite well endowed, so hopefully that means I'll be able to produce the milk my babies need :)

    3. I also intend to homeschool my kids. I went through so much hell as a child (and still do) because I was always the smart girl, ahead of the class, bored out of her skull, and teased for it. I've never really fit in properly, and taking a look around society, i'm glad. Now granted, if my children start to get to an older age and want to experience a "real" school, by all means, I'll let them go. It's important for my kids to be able to see the things they desire to experience, but I don't want to push them into it. I agree fully with Freewheelin Franklin. Its just a factory of minds. I want my children's minds to stand out in society as much as I hope mine will.
     
  12. Loveminx

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    Public school makes you learn to do a lot of monotonous work and behave..so you can be a good worker bee....
    But social skills, new experiences, and lots of friends are made there too!

    I would leave it up to my kids...anytime they're miserable I can pull them out of school...and in highschool I'd enroll them into an alternative school like mine...
    I guess it depends on the kids and what they want...
     
  13. Freewheelin Franklin

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    Believe it or not, you can aquire these things outside of a public school environment.
    You really think a six year old is capable of making these sort of decisions??
     
  14. Loveminx

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    Yeah, but if most kids are in the public school setting and your child isn't...then they aren't interacting with most of their peers...they'll mostly be home with you instead of with kids their age for all those hours...
    My three best friends are from my fourth grade class..all those years ago...and I would've never met them without public school...

    Of course a six year old won't make the decision.
    I plan to let them go to public school until they are mature enough to understand what both scenarios mean...around middle school probably...
     
  15. Freewheelin Franklin

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    So...you plan on letting your little ones be away from you all day, to be taught by total strangers, to be taught from an early age not to think for themselves, to be dumbed down and/or labled, to be bored constantly? You think some bimbo teacher knows better than you do what your child needs? You want to dump your child off at a Government run baby-sitting service so you can spend your day sitting around smoking pot? I see you plan on contributing to the problems of our society.
     
  16. Loveminx

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    I love the idea of my child having multiple teachers...knowing more views than just my own...
    I hold teachers to a very high standard...my mom was a high school teacher (though she's an idiot)...and my father was a briliant university professor...not to mention, I love most of my teachers I've had.
    Especially my high school teachers who were honest and not just feeding me bullshit.
    My mom is nothing like me, if I was to be homeschooled by her then I'd have no idea what the war is about and I'd be supporting bush.
    Teachers have fed me so much knowledge and always encouraged me, when it was my mom who dragged me down.
    Not all kids have perfect parents, some of us need teachers. We need the strong support, kind words, and someone to raise the bar.
    Attack the system not the teachers.
    It was parents last year who wanted to ban 9 books from schools, including Slaughterhouse 5....and it was the teachers and students who fought for them to stay.

    I've always been told I'd make a great teacher.
    And I know I'd make a great teacher for my children.
    I will fill in the gaps that public school misses.
     
  17. Freewheelin Franklin

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    And what if your kids get teachers like your mom, hmmmm? You still don't seem to get the problem with forced schooling. It's one thing to let your kids go to a school. It's something else to be forced to do it. Can you imagine if a few of your cool friends, who also have kids, met every day in your/their home for an informal "class"? The kids would be exposed to other opinions. And have friends. And not be indoctrinated. Think outside the box. Or, considering public schools, the cage.
     
  18. A.B.E.

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    I agree with you on this one. Many parents don't have the capabilities, or the motivation to teach their children at home. For many kids it would be detrimental to keep them at home if the parents weren't going to dedicate themselves to seriously teaching them what they needed to know. I suppose I was speaking in broad generalities, but for some, who are willing to give themselves to the job ( you don't have to be a genius, just a grasp of elementary education), homeschooling can be a positive, enriching experience.

    I also gave my children the choice, and two of them did go in and out of public school in their early years, deciding to stay at home after a short time of attendance. I think the elementary years can be "fun" for children if you have a relatively nice school for them. If I could have afforded it, I would have been interested in alternative "hippie" or cooperative schools, where the parents all teach different classes.

    I am sure Loveminx, that you would make a fine teacher for your kids, and if you send them to public school, you will be attentive enough to notice if they are growing and prospering in that environment, or if you need to make a change for their benefit.
     
  19. Freewheelin Franklin

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    What more motivation do you need than to do what's best for your own children? And as far as "hippie" schools, why can't we get together and group homeschool our kids? If you aren't proficient in one area, there's bound to be someone else who is.
     
  20. Loveminx

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    But that's why its so great they get multiple teachers.
    what if my kids feel the same way about me as I do my mom...I want them to have an escape like I did...even if it is from me >_<

    Thats a beautiful thought, to make my own classroom...but it'd never happen.
    My friends are not that open minded...except one of them...

    Maybe some hippie should start a school..who knows maybe even me...and I would def support it...
    but I'm not going to put all my faith on dreams right now...
    I don't know what kind of life I'll have in the future, money situation, and all...
     

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