Hipforums Liberal?

Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by jimaug87, Dec 21, 2007.

  1. mr.greenxxx

    mr.greenxxx Not an Average Bear

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    i just think people should make choices in theyre life themselves, not from what government says, not what propaganda says, not what god says. as long as it doesnt intefere with other people, or hurt them - imo its fine. legal drugs would lessen the overpopulation problem by loads.
     
  2. smokindude

    smokindude Senior Member

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    Enough with your smoking pot analogy Rubin, it has no meaning here.

    Who ever said that being straight is "normal". Hell, who can even prove that there is such a thing as 100% straight or 100% gay?

    ...and most importantly... why the hell would you want to conform to this idiotic society's standard of "normal"."

    Being straight IS
     
  3. BraveSirRubin

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    I'd go gay for Zen_Arcade.


    ...and smokindude, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my life. Not only is it completely ignorant, but you also have 0 evidence to base those claims upon.
     
  4. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    Who told you that being straight is "normal".

    Jesus or Bill O'Reilly?
     
  5. Alaxsxa

    Alaxsxa Member

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    Does that mean it is ok for straight parents to teach their kids that heterosexuality is normal/how everyone is meant to be?
     
  6. smokindude

    smokindude Senior Member

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    Enough with your smoking pot analogy Rubin, it has no meaning here.

    Who ever said that being straight is "normal". Hell, who can even prove that there is such a thing as 100% straight or 100% gay?

    ...and most importantly... why the hell would you want to conform to this idiotic society's standard of "normal"."

    Being straight IS normal. Its just that being gay isn't uncommon. How can you even argue that? And this "idiotic societies standard of normal" is enough to drive any child to suicide or serial killing who gets tormented everyday for being gay. So why make anyone go through this if it can be potentially prevented?

    Put yourself in the shoes of a child who drops out of school and becomes an all out loser just because he couldn't handle the torture of getting his ass kicked everyday in school just because he or his parents happened to be gay. The point is no matter what, homosexuality has a VERY big chance of ruining someones life because of this society we live in, sad to say. Sorry if i wouldn't want a brain that could potentially change the world to go to a waist due to being a helpless victim tormented over homosexuality in some way. That being said.. for now, we should help prevent children from becoming gay(like not allowing gay marriage/gay adoption) while trying to help the ones that are gay to be accepted by society so they can live comfortably as possible to enjoy this planet to the fullest.
     
  7. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    I guess it's a matter of aesthetics. I'd rather take a beating than try to be something I'm not. besides, kids give other kids a hard time when they're young. if it's not gay parents, it's about having disgusting eating habits, speaking with a stutter or being overweight. someone is always going to be bullied for something.

    I honestly wish there were more queers running around. there'd be more bitches to fuck.
     
  8. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    How can I argue that being straight is normal and being gay is not? Easily.

    I don't see anyone being tormented or committing suicide over being gay.

    Hopefully your eyes will open up after you get out of whatever redneck dump you live in where you see gay people getting their ass kicked everyday.

    How the hell will a child become gay just because his parents are gay? It's not like people choose to be gay. Even if the kid tries out the gay thing... he'll just realize that he isn't... it's that simply. You know that you're straight right? It's something that you know... same thing with gay people, they know that they are gay.

    Some gay people just try to deny it and compensate by purchasing expensive convertibles and owning huge gun collections.

    I don't see a single reason why we should prevent people from being gay. I would actually like to see crimes against gay people labeled as "hate crimes". That would lead to something positive.

    I am glad that you at least show some acceptance towards gay people... but you still have lots of growin' to do, kiddo.
     
  9. smokindude

    smokindude Senior Member

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    Does that mean it is ok for straight parents to teach their kids that heterosexuality is normal/how everyone is meant to be?

    Yes. Because i believe it is how everyone is meant to be, because boys have dicks and girls have vagina's for a reason. To reproduce. So with that evidence, i will go as far to say i personally believe everyone was meant to be straight.
     
  10. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    Conservative here

    it's better for keeping more of my money :p
     
  11. lune

    lune Senior Member

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    Smokingdude, your argument is null. Homosexuality is decided almost entirely at the GENETIC level, it's not a choice, it's innate, and it's not a result of the environment one is raised in. You are either born straight, or born gay. Having gay parents has absolutely nothing to do with making children either straight or gay.

    I'd much rather have gay parents than be put through the foster system.
     
  12. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    cute.

    so I take it you don't choke the bishop and spill the seed that was designed to impregnate a wench? all that semen was MEANT for something, that's why you (probably) have it. would you use condoms? what about getting jerked or sucked off?
     
  13. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    as if there could be any doubt. :tongue:
     
  14. smokindude

    smokindude Senior Member

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    "How the hell will a child become gay just because his parents are gay?"

    How does a child grow up thinking a certain religion is the right one? Because thats how there brought up. I believe homosexuality isn't only just a screw up in the genes..but also could be a decision, depending how you were raised(my point). In other words, i believe you can turn the average child into a homosexual if he/she were raised a certain way.

    And to defend myself on your point of "knowing" if your gay or not, i think children can be mislead and tricked into truly believing homosexuality is normal, causing a change of deception of ones own sexual attraction towards the same sex.
     
  15. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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  16. WanderingSoul

    WanderingSoul Free

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    I hate it when these young teenagers try to come in and act like they know it all. [​IMG]
     
  17. smokindude

    smokindude Senior Member

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    "In summary, the answer is " I DON'T KNOW, YET". Being homosexual may be genetic, it may have something to do with the environment in which someone is raised, but most likely a combination of many genes and environment.
    It will take many many more years before a definite answer can be given."

    "www.madsci.org/posts/archives/1997-08/862927470.Ge.r.html - 14k -"


    If i knew my child was gay at birth due to some genetic mixup i would want to turn him straight. Call me crazy..
     
  18. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    whatever. smokindude obviously lets the consensus do his thinking for him. this has been obvious for a long time.

    can't say I blame him, though. I probably wasn't all that different 6 or 7 years ago.
     
  19. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    Not crazy.

    Just ignorant.
     
  20. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    Man... I would repreatedly punch myself in the face everyday if I realized that I was like that when I was 16.
     
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