Hipforums Liberal?

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  1. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    I'm intrigued by that idea.
     
  2. skierdood

    skierdood Space For Rent

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    Im liberal when it comes to human rights but somewhat conservative in politics surrounding financial issues. But basically I vote for whoever I agree with the most I dont really stick to the parties.
     
  3. smokindude

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    I consider myself...myself. I have different personal opinions towards everything(Im sure you guys do to) so i cant really classify myself as one or the other. I was raised a hardcore republican in a Christian home, even though my parents used to do drugs they still brought me up on the beliefs they were to hypocritical to practice themselves. My grandparents played a huge roll, too. Example..i don't believe gay marriage should be legal, but i also accept gay people for who they are(even though its hard) and believe they have the right to be with each other if they want to.
     
  4. zen_arcade

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    well, I like anarchy in theory, but it just can't happen. it runs counter to human nature. states would inevitably form again, unless there were some power enforcing anarchy. you know, another government. anarchy doesn't even exist in the wild, animals (especially mammals, I believe) will naturally develop a class system and establish hierarchy. besides, do you think people would just give up the entire concept of a faith-based currency system?

    I know a lot of people entertain lofty notions about humanity, but we're animals just like all the others. we're wired for conquest and breeding.
     
  5. lune

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    I don't disagree with even one of Ron Paul's policies.
     
  6. zen_arcade

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    so what's the problem with gay marriage? because it "violates the marital institution"?
     
  7. smokindude

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    Nope. Because its just not fair for an adopted child to have openly gay parents for the rest of their life when its not socially accepted by so many people, causing bullying and torment that could change that child's life forever. Also, it isn't normal to be gay. So when these gay parents raise these children that way and have no choice to accept their lifestyle, these children will be brought up to be a homosexual when gay people claim it has to do with genes and whatnot...thus causing children to be a homosexual out of instinct. Believe me, if a kid had a choice to be gay or straight their whole life they would choose to be straight. So why let these parents choose their sexual preference for them just because THEY think homosexuality is normal.

    Idk..thats just what i believe in search for a better world.
     
  8. zen_arcade

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    oh man. what are you, some crypto nazi?

    hey, maybe you're right! if gay people stopped raising kids, maybe no one would "learn" to be gay and the world would be 100% heterosexual after all the people alive now die out. then everyone can be normal! :D
     
  9. BraveSirRubin

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    Aww... give him a break...

    He's probably gay himself, and he's just having a very tough time dealing with it.
     
  10. makesmomcry420

    makesmomcry420 shlimazl

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    no, i see where smokindude is coming from, even though i couldnt care less what gay ppl do with their lives, i do know that kids are cruel as fuck, giving kids one more thing to torture another kid for isnt good for healthy developement. but still kids in hetero families end up gay all the time, so yea it doesnt matter anyway
     
  11. BraveSirRubin

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    Being gay is getting more and more socially acceptable by the second.

    Plus, worst case scenario... kids do make fun of a kid with gay parents... it might just build some character in him.
     
  12. smokindude

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    I said that because most of all the gay people ive ever met said they couldn't help it and would be heterosexual if they could..CAUSE THEY WANT TO BE NORMAL. Im not gay, but i mean CMON if you had the choice when you were born to be gay or straight, what would you choose?

    Does anyone get the point im trying to make?

    And BraveSirRuben..i laugh at your attempt to get me offended by your words in hope to get me to waist my time by trying to offend you.......over the internet.
     
  13. zen_arcade

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    definitly.

    homosexuality is stigmatized, so the solution is to further the stigma. quaint.
     
  14. skamikaze

    skamikaze Coffee Addict

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    fuck politics. Fuck Liberals. Fuck Conservatives. Govern your own life.
     
  15. zen_arcade

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    I get your point, but it isn't a choice. and I still don't understand why a child raised by gay parents would be gay themself.
     
  16. Alaxsxa

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    "Politics is the art of controlling your environment. That is one of the key things I learned in these years, and I learned it the hard way. Anybody who thinks that 'it doesn't matter who's President' has never been Drafted and sent off to fight and die in a vicious, stupid War on the other side of the World — or been beaten and gassed by Police for trespassing on public property — or been hounded by the IRS for purely political reasons — or locked up in the Cook County Jail with a broken nose and no phone access and twelve perverts wanting to stomp your ass in the shower. That is when it matters who is President or Governor or Police Chief. That is when you will wish you had voted."
    -Hunter S. Thompson
     
  17. BraveSirRubin

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    Who ever said that being straight is "normal". Hell, who can even prove that there is such a thing as 100% straight or 100% gay?

    ...and most importantly... why the hell would you want to conform to this idiotic society's standard of "normal".

    You smoke pot, that's not normal there man... betta quit if you want to be accepted by your peers and shit.

    Plus... I have never met a gay person who wishes he was straight... but I guess that I just hang out with people who know how to accept themselves for who they are.

    All I'm saying is that no matter who you vote for, one of the two top candidates will win anyhow because the majority of the population is extremely stupid... and since those two candidates are pretty much the same thing... it doesn't matter.
     
  18. makesmomcry420

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    i love it when ppl let quotes burn ppl for them, nice
     
  19. zen_arcade

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    like a file cabnet slamming shut. perfect.
     
  20. smokindude

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    Im not saying every child raised by gay parents would be gay. Im saying that alot more children would become gay JUST because they were raised(at a young age) to think homosexuality is either normal or how everyone is meant to be, just because there parents believe it and enforce it. So now children are becoming gay because there raised in that lifestyle/environment, instead of just being gay because thats the way they were born.
     
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