Hip-hop and hippies

Horrocore and the Wicked Shit, that's where good rap is at.
Well okay it's actually really bad rap.. But it's funny and makes me smile
I've got a picture of me and ICP in my profile, that pretty much disqualifies me from entering this conversation with any real progression to the thread haha.

 

Some people think that Bob Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues" was the first rap song.

I can see it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM0Vs3MEOZc"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM0Vs3MEOZc

You don't need a Weatherman to know which way the wind blows...

 

Everything he sang was halfway in between singing and talking. Hard to explain to somebody who hasn't heard him.

Deborah Harry is one of several who claim to have done the first rap recording.

 

Others in the know chalk it up to the sugar Hill Gang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6gD_CwF5YM"]the sugar hill gang rapper's delight - YouTube



Hotwater

 

I also thought this.

 

One of the best. What year was that? The melody and rhythm track is from Good Times (Chic, 1979).

This version from Jimmy Fallon's show is funnier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YCeIgt7hMs"]Brian Williams Raps "Rapper's Delight" - YouTube

 

That video is 'murica. Bird didn't post the context for those of you that don't know what the Crip Walk is. It is a CWalk vid that replaced the hip hop with a jig.


I see a cappello hip-hop all the time. You're not going to run into the good shit if your only exposure is occasional mainstream crap. And ask any opera singer - your voice is an instrument. Rap/hip hop just tends more to percussive sounds than melodic (beat,chop,syncopation)...but that depends on who you're listening to as well.

Values, morality and hip-hop is a large topic, one that's been going on for sometime and will continue. There are some cultural problems there and the community won't stop working on it. Changing cultures can be hard.

 

most of my friends recognize me as at least having something to do with being a hippy and i been listening to hip hop more than anything so far this year.

 

Uhm, did you forgot to hit the sarcasm button or are you serious??? If you are really serious could you post an example :2thumbsup:

Haha burned! Hotwater that is

Yep, music is music. Just because someone finds it lacking in melody does not change that. I've never been really big on hip hop but I agree with Manservant here. That being said, there's a bigger chance I dig it when the background music suits me.

 

I have never heard anything I liked by Kanye West or Jay Z. If someone would suggest something I might like, I'll take a listen and tell you what I think.

 

I went looking for something to post and got distracted by this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqtkdSM1CJk"]www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqtkdSM1CJk

 

This was done in 1996, but still relevant. Be sure to notice how many black people are in the audience, and how strongly they appear to agree with Chris:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4"]Chris Rock - Black People VS. Niggaz (Bring the Pain 1996) - YouTube

This performance builds momentum like a freight train. Best experienced on high quality speakers, at a high volume level. Kanye likes to go for dramatic impact, and small computer speakers won't deliver that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbXZ0s2D4iI"]Kanye West Perform at '12.12.12: The Concert for Sandy Relief' - YouTube

No two of his raps sound alike, and none of them sound like the generic rap that we hear too often at gas stations.

Young people have decided that the word melody no longer belongs in the definition of music, and anybody who disagrees can go to hell. Hundreds of years of history mean nothing.

 

So percussive groups aren't music. Gotch'a

 

Music:

Percussive groups are music.

Whatever the new art form consisting of sounds that some kids (and adults, I guess) listen to today, needs to be given a new name - but it's not music.

 

Now get off my lawn and pull up your pants!!!
*shakes fist*

 

Rap is rap. It's halfway between music and poetry. Everybody knows what it is. It's rap. Why does it need another label?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjsXo9l6I8"]"Empire State of Mind" JAY Z | Alicia Keys [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube

 

It doesn't need to be labeled music, it just semantically is. Others are saying that it semantically isn't.

 

Haha, I'm a cranky old bastard.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiQkGouzck4"]American Idol 2010 auditions - a crazy moment with "Pants on the Ground" & General Larry Platt (HQ) - YouTube