Hip-Anon?

Discussion in 'Protest' started by skip, Nov 9, 2008.

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  1. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    A lot depends on the manner in which information is disseminated. The neo-cons perpetuated their installation by basically taking control of mainstream media and determining what information reached the masses and what form it took. Time and time again the general population shows how it can be led into behaving, voting, buying, questioning, and not questioning in a manner to benefit an outside entity. Large scale decriminalization would be an uphill battle at best- consider for example the number of states that voted in favor of McCain-- that still believe that we're in Iraq because of a link with Al Qaeda- or weapons of mass destruction. People will believe exactly what they want to and there simply are going to be large numbers in traditionally "tough on crime" areas that are unwilling or unable to see marijuana as anything beyond a dangerous addictive that turns people into unthinking zombies (oh, the irony) and is a sure gateway to using harder drugs.

    Social change will likely involve borrowing from the enemy's playbook and leading people to see the cartoonish and ignorance based origins of anti-marijuana legislation and to begin comprehending the criminal status of possessing a fucking PLANT as the ridiculous witch hunt that it is. Expect the deep pockets of pharmaceutical giants to bankroll any opposition should the ball really get rolling (so to speak).
     
  2. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    This isn't about just herb, there are much higher principles involved. This is medicine to hundreds of thousands of otherwise law-abiding citizens. It is spiritual sacrament to many.

    You put a bizarre twist on it saying it is people choice to be involved or not, when in fact that choice has been removed. Its either stay away, or risk persecution. This is not how it should be in a free society, activities should not be divided into legal/good or illegal/bad.

    The prohibition is supporting a HUGE prison-industrial complex, and allowing certain industries to monopolize markets. Our prisons are overflowing, we have more prisoners than anyone else in the world, both per capita and overall. This is a BIG issue that goes way beyond the scope of getting high legally.

    Most americans speak in dollar signs. And most americans are comfortable with their employer funded health insurance. It would be very hard to convince everyone to spend more money on socialized healthcare, especially since it doesnt even seem to work right in half the places it is implemented. I just dont think socialized healthcare is going to fly here. I would be fine if they just made insurance more available and affordable. For the record I do not have health insurance of any kind.

    But legalization, would save billions per year in enforcement, and in turn would generate billions in tax revenue. Weed is americas number 1 cash crop. As it stands now, all that taxable income is going to criminals and funding organized crime. When it could be going into our tax base, then into programs which benefit society as a whole.

    People are against prohibition but are scared to speak out against it for fear of becoming targets. Many many people are apathetic, but lean towards legalization, and then there are those passionately against it. But either way its a volatile issue that a lot of people have strong beliefs about, and anonymous protests just might give people the peace of mind they need to get out there and exercise what is left of our constitutional rights.

    My .02
     
  3. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    No, I understand. I dont have anything against your proposition in any way. It is just in my interest to ask many questions.
     
  4. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Of course people are going nuts, they have been programmed to fear everything.

    But give it a couple years, you will start hearing about how teen usage has dropped, and other direct benefits. It has happened like that in every decriminalized state so far.
     
  5. MissAnonPoet22

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    Hmmm interesting. Well as we say anyone can be Anonymous. Maybe you guys could do free hug raids. Go out on a busy street in a mask and hold a "free hugs" sign.

    I'm not sure how being Anonymous will help you guys decriminalize Mj, but more power to ya.

    And remember if you want to help with Scientology, grab a mask and a sign and head down to your local org on the date established.
     
  6. lovelyxmalia

    lovelyxmalia Banana Hammock Lifetime Supporter

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    Well my fear is that cops are still going to arrest people if they have less than an ounce...I mean, there are some things to note with this new law-for instance, you get a citation ONLY IF the pot is in one bag (not trafficking it) and if it's less than an ounce...but cops DO NOT like this new law at all! And the state had 65% vote on yes so that is a considerable amount of people voting for it...
     
  7. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Thank you gentlemen, for your thoughtful replies. I wish to see all sides of the coin and receive answers from everyone.
     
  8. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    I sort of am anonymous already, no-one actually knows who I am apart from me.
     
  9. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    We do now, sig pic man.
     
  10. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    The number of protesters it has the potential to generate..

    But we are just tossing around ideas at this point
     
  11. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    I'm sure they will, then activists will bring them to court, and they will have to change their policies.

    A similar situation is going on in denver now.
     
  12. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    Yep, I guess so. I bet ya all was screen dumping like mad yesterday.
     
  13. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    take back our governments, each one, for the people, and not the military industrial complex, no more commercing of power, let lobbying die in this generation.
     
  14. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    No problem. Another good cause would be industrial hemp, which you canadians and most other industrialized nations legally grow and we can only import.

    We could stop using petroleum plastics, insanely cut down our crude oil consumption, grow fibrous plants without land destroying fertilizers and pesticides, and cut down less trees for paper and building materials, to name a few.
     
  15. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    That is another good one, and is actually the root cause of why we are even talking about how to legalize herb..
     
  16. Cate8

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    That would be a remarkable advance, and is really only common sense and attentive thinking on its own.

    And is actually something I preached about in highschool lol.
     
  17. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Yeah, the hemp industry is stagnated since we cant grow it here. I kind of have utopian visions of american farmers with fields of hemp, and a hemp based, sustainable, 'green' economy and society

    The problem is that the pharmaceutical, oil, cotton, synthetic fibers, paper, and a bunch of other industries lobby the government to keep the status quo unchanged.

    It all boils down to money, and it shouldnt. They need the rug pulled out from underneath them.
     
  18. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Amen, bro!
     
  19. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    That would be what we're up against... BIG money
     
  20. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    :cheers2:
     
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