Hillary Clinton

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  1. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Speaking of Pizza............................

    [SIZE=18pt]Police: Fake news story led man to shoot inside pizza shop[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=16pt]WASHINGTON (AP) — A man who said he was investigating a conspiracy theory about Hillary Clinton running a child sex ring out of a pizza place fired an assault rifle inside the Washington, D.C., restaurant on Sunday injuring no one, police and news reports said.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=16pt]Metropolitan Police Department spokeswoman Aquita Brown said police received a call Sunday afternoon about a male with a weapon on Connecticut Avenue, in an affluent neighborhood of the nation’s capital.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=16pt]Edgar Maddison Welch, 28 of Salisbury, North Carolina, walked into the front door of Comet Ping Pong and pointed a firearm in the direction of an employee. [/SIZE]

    http://kron4.com/2016/12/04/police-fake-news-story-led-man-to-shoot-inside-pizza-shop/

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  2. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    If we are going to list the good things about President Obama, let me call him an outstanding father and family man.

    Twas shocked when Michelle described herself as a single mother, a slip up; but illustrative of a certain mindset.

    Yes his
    Being tired of divisive politics, tuned in to the TV when Mr Obama took a vacation in the Alaska wilderness. Sought to experience the man in a different setting away from partisanship, enjoying the natural world with guide bear grillis. (sp)

    They hiked to a glacier, where our President then spoke of shrinking glaciers and global warming. Damm, the man just cant come off of it.
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    Remembering when Senator Teddy Kennedy ran against Pres. Jimmy Carter; a sitting President, from your own party, wow.

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    Yes, a bambi in the wilds of Washington, fasten your seatbelts.

    Mr Obama has re-set the bar for experience for a presidential candidate.
    Race was Mr Obama's honeymoon with most voters.
    My newspaper had to keep reporting that Mr. Obama's birth announcement was in the newspapers of Haiwai. Bad behaviour, The Left refers to this sort of thing as: "Truthiness" Its champion is New Jersey Novelist Phillip Roth. Haven't heard the word, Truthiness in a while, perhaps it has gone out of style.
     
  3. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    But we're stuck with the wicked ogre!
     
  4. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    lets talk about what the munchkins remember...they remember being oppressed by the wicked witch, they remember her flying monkeys, they remember her evil and annoying laugh at her own unfunny jokes.
    they dont remember that the person they chose in her place is just as bad because they can only remember how bad it was with her.
     
  5. I love how they keep calling it fake news, yet won't explain why the Podesta emails use words like "pizza" and "hot dogs" in coded language, or in what world Obama would be flying $65,000 worth of said pizza and hot dogs in for a private party.

    They won't explain the lewd pictures alongside pictures of children with money in their mouths on James Alefantis' Instagram. They won't explain why there's a picture of an empty freezer room tagged "kill room" and "murder". They won't explain how it's appropriate for a child friendly restaurant to have a picture of a man jacking off in the bathroom with the words "Shut up and fuck" written on the wall. So, so many pieces of circumstantial evidence they either will not or cannot explain, and yet this is all fake news.

    If you'd explain some of it away, I wouldn't be wondering about it! But that's too much to ask, isn't it? Blame all of the people who are paranoid about something you can't take thirty minutes to explain away.
     
  6. magickman

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    And he didn't invite me...

    Me without Pizza, is like Hillary sending help to Benghazi. It's just not right.
     
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  7. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    But she was never queen. She didn't do anything, unless you're referring to all those fake news murders. Trump, on the other hand, is a serial rapist, groper con man and pizza delivery boy.
     
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  8. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    You are speaking like the witches guard. You have to see it from the POV of the ones she does not represent.
     
  9. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    I wasn't pissed about it until you pointed it out...now I am kind of pissed. My taxes paid for that pizza so where is mine.
     
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  10. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    "MEET THE NEW BOSS, SAME AS THE OLD BOSS"? The Who were wrong.
     
  11. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    Never trust anyone over 30 years old.
     
  12. Say there were fifty people at the party, you still would have gotten to eat around five hundred pieces of pizza.

    I think the public has a right to know if Obama and Co. ate twenty thousand slices of pizza on taxpayer money in one night, even if "pizza" doesn't mean "little girl."
     
  13. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    You guys fall for anything.

    Unbelievable.

    Here's an interesting item:

    A man walks into a pizza joint......sounds like the joke it is.......shoots the place up with an assault rifle because he's there to "rescue the kids".
    But guess what? He can't find any, so he surrenders to police.

    What a joke.

     
  14. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    yup, i been saying that about all you people who continue to vote republican or democrat...yall still do it though and we continue our steady downward spiral....well it might not be so steady come February.
     
  15. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Republican or Democrat as opposed to what? Not voting at all? Libertarian? Green?
     
  16. Okiefreak

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    Ordinarily, I and lots of other rational people go by the rule of thumb that when sensational stories appear in the heat of an election accusing people of being Satan worshipers, having sex with animals, being child molesters, child pornographers, horse thieves, etc., I tend not to believe it unless it's from a known and reliable source and supported by a sizeable body of independently verifiable evidence.This particular story was pushed mainly by alt-righters --Infowars, Daily Stormer, Mike Cernocich VoX Daily, etc.--and their fellow travellers. A whole cottage industry in Macedonia specializes in this stuff, and if we put a stop to it the local economy might collapse. There are still folks who believe in the de-bunked Protocols of the Elders of Zion outlining a Jewish plot to take over the world, the claims that the U.S. never landed on the moon and that it was all staged on a back lot of Universal Studios, the reports that wreckage at Roswell contained the bodies of aliens documented by "authentic" photographs, that the Loch Ness monster is real, that there are pyramids in the Antarctic, etc. If you want to believe such things, go ahead. You could be right, I could be wrong. But don't be too offended if others don't take you seriously. To understand why people believe weird stuff, check out Michael Schermer's The Believing Brain. The pizzagate theory seems to be a product of apophenia, the human tendency to find seemingly meaningful patterns in random data--in this case "pizza" and "hotdogs". .As for those "coded" references to pizza and hot dogs, as Freud once said "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
     
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  17. Somebody who trusts the government telling me that I fall for anything. That's rich.

    All I want at this point is an explanation. There probably wouldn't be vigilantes taking things into their own hands if only the press would offer up some kind of explanation. If Podesta could explain why his emails seem to use pedophile code words, or if James Alefantis could explain why his instagram had the content that it had -- why his very profile picture was a picture of Antinous, boy lover of emperor Hadrian, for instance.

    The only explanation I can think of would be, "Well, I'm a pervert." Which, most people won't bring their kids into a pervert's place of business, pedophile or no. Is it even legal to let kids use a bathroom with the phrase "Shut up and fuck" written on the wall? Doesn't that violate some code of public decency?

    I really think this has grown to the point where an explanation is necessary. The lack of one is starting to make this dangerous.

    Yeah, it's probable that Obama ordered $65,000 worth of pizza and hot dogs for a party, and someone wanted to return a handkerchief to Podesta with a pizza related map on it.

    "Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?"

    Now that I think about it, this quote could be code, or it could just be that someone isn't sure about whether they'll do better playing dominoes on cheese rather than pasta. I mean, somebody's got to play dominoes on pizza or pasta sometime in the course of human civilization, right?
     
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  18. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I trust the government unless I am able to verify that they have indeed committed something wrong. I freely admit parts of it have in the past and probably are in the present. But the present system as a whole, including the government, is the best we have and I see no reason to believe every cock and bull conspiracy that comes down the pike. Surely individuals are corrupt in the government..but not the entire system.

    I can show you very convincing proof that the Moon is hollow, there's a face on Mars, and the great pyramid was a power station. I particularly like the Giza power station theory myself. But as to me absolutely believing any of it....it's all very interesting and I keep an open mind....but I'm still waiting for conclusive proof. So I don't go around accusing people of cover ups, or claiming the government in toto is corrupt, or barging into pizza shops with a gun.
     
  19. Yeah, I don't believe every conspiracy theory I hear. I only believe the ones that make perfect sense and for which there is strong evidence, such as 9/11 being a controlled demolition and pizzagate. In fact, I can't think of any other conspiracy theories I've ever taken seriously. (If you don't count the "conspiracy theory" that the mainstream media is total bullshit.) I like to think I would have believed in other ones that turned out to be true, such as MK Ultra, though.

    The things you pay attention to are things I don't even give a second thought. There's a big difference between theories like you've mentioned and theories like pizzagate. Right now enough people are taking pizzagate seriously that a responsible press has to also take it seriously, whether that is a complete debunking or not. The lack of light that has been shed on it has made for an explosive situation. People honestly think the children of this country are being molested, and obviously they aren't going to tolerate that. If nobody talks about whether the pyramids were power stations, I don't think anybody's going to get too irate.

    To just label this all "fake news" without doing a proper investigation and explaining the circumstantial evidence is just making people more paranoid.
     
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  20. Okiefreak

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    Did you hear the one about “FBI Agent Suspected In Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead In Apparent Murder-Suicide"? Did you believe it? Did you know that NPR exposed the sick fuck who invented and peddled that fake story? “FBI Agent Suspected In Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead In Apparent Murder-Suicide.”http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tippling/2016/11/26/fake-news-entrepreneur-exposed-by-npr/ But that's NPR for you. And I'm sure you "know", of course, that the so-called "gunman" at the pizza place was really an actor hired to discredit the pizzagate story. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/conspiracy-peddlers-continue-pushing-debunked-%e2%80%98pizzagate%e2%80%99-tale/ar-AAlbCfr There are at least a couple of dozen Youtube videos and internet sites that tell us that. Just like Sandyhook, where the so-called "parents" of so-called "murdered children" were really actors hired to undermine guns and the NRA.; I guess they were put in their place when the patriots started calling them with death threats! Again, those stories have been thoroughly debunked by the mainstream media, but what do they know? Compared to trustworthy sources like the National Enquirer they're stodgy and obviously mouthpieces for the Establishment, right. Did you know that Jill Stein and Bernie Sanders are part of a Satanic ring of pedophiles who originated the pizzagate story to divert attention to themselves and smear Hillary? Neither did I. I just made it up.

    And the government is always putting out cover stories to explain away UFOs: weather balloons,the planet Venus, swamp gas--what will they come up with next? And speaking of swamps, there's a fantastic piece of real estate in the Okefenokee (they named it after me) I happen to own. The government doesn't want you to know about because it's right next to a place the Anunaki from the planet Nibiru (check them out on the History Channel) are using as a research station. They're really nice neighbors once you get to know them, and will be glad to help you with dredge and fill. I'll sell it to you at a price I know you can afford. Just let me know. Great site for a Trump golf course!

    For more on the psychopathology of conspiracy theory believers, see
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-narcissus-in-all-us/200809/paranoia-and-the-roots-conspiracy-theories
    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories/
     
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  21. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Mr Obama is Not engaged in any purported hanky-panky with these fools.

    He is an upstanding father & family man.

    His very life depends on it.
     
  22. I'm not interested in the FBI agent who was or wasn't murdered. Yes, I've heard that the guy who went into Comet Pizza was an actor and that a lot of people think it was a false flag in order to make "fake news" appear dangerous and to make everyone who believes in pizzagate appear insane. But I'm not really interested in that either.

    This has nothing to do with Sandy Hook. I suppose you're using the idea of callousness towards children being murdered as leverage in our conversation. Like, "All people who believe anything other than what the government tells them are insensitive to the families of children who were murdered!" Yeah right.

    I know you think you're being really insulting, but frankly I don't give a damn.

    There has got to be some article somewhere about the psychopathy of people who label those with alternative points of view "psychopaths". It's always so strange and fascinating to me that there are people out there who are so diametrically opposed to the idea that people in power are guilty of anything nefarious. To such an extent that they'll go as far as to label us all psychopaths in order to silence our voices. It's truly Orwellian. It's not really effective, though.

    In the end, all I'm really saying is that, especially given how much fear and paranoia it has aroused, the media ought to explain away the evidence in this case. Podesta ought to explain what happened. He hasn't tweeted in a month now, so people are starting to question whether a lawyer has told him not to, for fear of incriminating himself.
     
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