Hillary Clinton Is In...

Which is what will probably do it, all the possible REP candidates are like what, who

 

The problem is...the "business". Yes, she knows it well...too well. She is very smart and very well-connected and that makes any comparison of her to Palin silly and superficial. My issue is that she is just a female face of the same group of people who have got us to where we are now. It really doesn't matter what party she represents.That's a facade.

 

My opinion...


If she is the next Democrat running for president the Democrats are throwing away the election. There are a shit ton of "Hillary Haters" in this country. Many of them might normally vote Democrat too.

 

Several Democrat candidates have arrived in Iowa . The Iowa Dem. leaders fully anticipate a lively caucus
of crows in the tree .

 

How is this even news? Even I knew she was aiming to become a candidate. I guess this is only news in the official sense.

Nonsense. Why not?

 

Well, duh...do you think the world will change before next election....you think our system and the real power behind it all is gonna change? It is not....so the lesser of two evils would be Hillary....as she knows how the system works. i do
think she wants to do the best she can for us all.....she does have a daughter to think about and possible grandchildren. She gets the job done. She is no nonsense.....so I say go, Hillary....

plus she is not televising herself on TV killing the poor elk in Alaska

 

Hilary should have bided her time until the next presidential election. Its going to be a Republican this time, that's how it always goes with the exception of Bush Sr right after Regan.

 

No. I don't think anything will change at all. And I don't think her being elected will change anything either. The fact that she has daughter doesn't mean she will do anything to change the system. Her family is doing just fine.

 

The system is such now that no one can change it......so who will do the least amount of damage while there, is what it boils down to when I pick a candidate.

 

When we had a woman Prime Minister here, she was the absolute worst in living memory. Just because Hilary is a woman doesn't mean a thing. If she gets it, no doubt she'll just continue the same old stuff.

 

I think she'll be marginally better. That's why I supported her over Obama eight years ago.

I always vote for the Democrat, no matter who it is, because of the party's core principles. I live in a state that was run by Democrats for generations, then the GOP took over, and everything went to hell.

She was an embarrassment to all women.

 

where is the first husband going to sleep, and whom is he going to sleep with ?........... Oh yeah I went there,

 

Are you volunteering?

 

Would you never vote for a third party who had equally sound principles (and not yet disproved themselves), Karen? I can understand seeing voting for a third party as a waste when you know they will not get the majority of the votes but how is it less of a waste voting for the same party over and over again, which often seems just as much a slave to your countries political system as their main dreadful opponent? Isn't it like voting for the 'lesser evil'?

 

In theory, I would support such a party in opinion polls, maybe financially, and maybe also through volunteer work. But... when election day arrives, I want to spend my vote on a party that has a reasonable chance of winning; the party closest to my own views.

In reality, I don't know what that third party would be. I'll keep my eyes and ears open. I won't hold out for perfection, because you never get that in politics.

When people doing opinion polls call me, I'll say all kinds of things to shake them up. It isn't good when they think they can take anyone's vote for granted.

A vote against the 'greater evil' is never wasted.

At the state level, the Democrats didn't do a bad job of running NC. They could have done better, of course. The current Republican leadership totally sucks in every way.

 

^ the Alaska thing/Palin's idiocy and her pride in shooting wildlife are some of the 1st things I thought of (oddly enough) when I considered or thought about Hillary running for presidency. People somehow want to make a deal about a woman being a president. At this point in time I don't get that. Isn't it (widely) known that a woman can make as good a decision/s as any man and can be just as ruthless.

I also agree with KarenJ agreeing with basic Democratic core principles and that no matter what I will vote Democrat - and I DON'T regret voting that way...and the realist in me also feels, and agrees with you, that no matter what, politics have indeed turned into the "same coin (two sides) ".

All that being said, I think Hillary is incredibly smart, not overly emotional (like many women are imo) and will do as good as anybody will in there.

 

Maybe voting for the lesser evil is a waste when there's a good party not getting a chance ever because of this practice of voting against the greater evil I understand you want to make your vote count and I also consider voting for a party I like that actually has a chance of winning but sometimes I go and vote actually for a smaller party. But we have a slightly different system here in the Netherlands.

 

Well, it seems to be perpetuated even by the sensible voters imo. There can be more sides of a coin Well not really, but in politics there can and there should be. Fuck these 2 sides I would say. The only issue is now that no one believes a third party can win anyway. In theory they can. Maybe it is also worthwile to get every critical voter to vote on third parties, even if it wouldn't be the same party. Even though a third party would not win (the first couple of times) it would give a powerful signal that people want change and lost trust in the 2 main ones. I know this is highly hypothetical. Even progressive americans seem not to believe in such change or that it can come through their own politics. It seems to have become all about accepting the lesser evil.
After all, isn't it about what the democrats do and say now and how they act upon their principles now, and not about believing in what they once wrote down as their core principles? If politicians or a party promises and says too often stuff they in reality don't work hard enough on, shouldn't the trust in that party or politicians be retracted?

 

Because SC is such a rich and educated state (NOT) , and others in this state vote for this ongoing Republican regime, we don't even have the option of getting help with insurance nor did we "choose" - Nikki Haley, our Rep gov chose NOT to accept extended medicare benefits, since it was part of the "Obamacare package"..which of course, I would have been eligible for benefits - meaning health insurance - under the extended medicare benefits because of my age.

Under the Republicans, as if SC didn't have enough problems, our freakin gov't system has been hacked, more than once! Yeah, Nikki Haley "saved money" when hiring the company that did the programs for the SC gov't's computers. yeah, its just a big ole joke It is easily googled.

^ different reasons I loathe the Rep regime that SC has set up for itself.

Like I said in another thread...imo the average person walking in public shouldn't even be allowed to vote, and just a few more than that be allowed to drive.

bah humbug

oh, and ps - there are many things I usually agree with that the 3rd party holds as it's principles. However, on voting day I will always choose to make my vote count. That's just the way it is.

 

Lynn.....