High Dosing Environments

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by MokshaMedicine, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    FreshD, one other note about doing a high dose trip.
    You seem to be apprehensive about it due to your experiences with salvia.
    Remember the scariest, most terrifiying thing that you will encounter on a high dose LSD trip is......
    yourself as you truelly are.
    Can be heaven or hell, but therein lies the value and reward of such an experience.
     
  2. FreshDacre

    FreshDacre Senior Member

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    I do know what you mean. In my trip I could FEEL myself exploring deep into my mind, and what I found was a multiplied appreciation for things outside of me. I don't know why that makes it seem I haven't gone far enough, different people focus on different things, and I have a VERY vivid imagination, so I will always be thinking about what is happening around me no matter how hard I trip.
     
  3. FreshDacre

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    I just feel like I have gone as far as it goes with salvia, so really I'm not "scared" of anything. I just used Lsd because I wanted to experience it. I know what it is like now, and I learned by experience that LSD affects your brain chemistry 200x more than salvia does.

    Mabey I just haven't been ready for that much of an alter to my thinking process. After all, I love the way I think now, why would I want to risk who I am just to hope for something even better? People should never do something they aren't ready for either.
     
  4. Grinners

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    A secluded opening in a forest or field sounds pretty damn good to me, provided you bring everything you need and a friend incase you start to struggle for control.

    And did someone seriously just suggest a swimming pool for a high dose journey!?!
     
  5. Mr.Writer

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    A shallow stream is INCREDIBLE when tripping, or a jacuzzi, or any safe water.

    I would be fascinated to hear your comments about this paragraph after you've done a larger dose.
     
  6. Ghoust_NY

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    yes this is indeed a great idea thats what i did just two days ago and it was the best trip i ever had just make sure your away from people lol you will be acting weird i went to the beach just before the sunset with my friend it was a claudy windy day and we were lucky to be the only two there for most of the day later some people started to come around and we just walked home slowly lol so yeah do it out side
     
  7. PsychedelicLover

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    I got lost in the woods on 5g of mushrooms and 4 hits of acid for about 20 hours eating every blueberry I could find :)
     
  8. dosia

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    I completely agree with this, on high dose acid trips.
    You Do Not want to trip somewhere unfamiliar, uncomftorable, and without basic essentials (toilet, drinks, bed, ect). That is asking for a freakout. Unless, you are very experinced.
    Now if you are used to the drug, and on a moderate dose.. hell yeah going to the woods, or beach or a festival can be extremely fun and def. worth it.

    But Not on a high dose! (again, unless you are very experinced.) Stay home, in your room, safe, and explore your conciousness.. and just fyi, some people have tripped harder off one dose then some have off of twenty, depends on how it grabs hold of you. So don't think "oh ill just take two and ill be fine in public or the woods", acid can grab you by the mind and take you for a hell of a spin.
     
  9. dosia

    dosia Visitor

    Yes you yourself can be extremely terrifying, when you truely find yourself.

    But I disagree, the scariest thing you can encounter on acid is a major freakout. Cops, fightings, shootings, violence, especially cops can be extremely fucking terrifying on a high dose acid trip. Even a low dose.
    And getting lost in your mind can be terrifying too.. feeling like you may never come back, cant even speak becuz your mind is so jumbled (been there, done that) for a few weeks in this state is rather scary.

    Just be safe if you plan to do a high dose acid trip, stay at home or some place safe. There are people who've done a high dose, got freaked out, and of never come back or never of been the same again.

    Acid is not something to take lightly, at a high dose anyway. Just enjoy it though, don't mean to sound like a downer.. just personal experince. Have fun, and make sure to take time to reflect on yourself and your conciousness.
     
  10. FreshDacre

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    Yes exactly^^ I know a couple people in real life that are weird now that they dosed too much. That's what I meant when I say acid affects your brain chemistry 200x more than salvia.
     
  11. AznRukkus

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    vegas is awesome on two hits ^_^
     
  12. PB_Smith

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    I'm sure it is, but two hits is far from a high dose, unfortunately :(
     
  13. FreshDacre

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    Yeah right, 2 hits is a very high dose if your acid is good like mine.
     
  14. PB_Smith

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    Send me some and I will give a comprehensive bio-assay of the quality and strength. Results guaranteed within 48 hours of receipt of sample.

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  15. FritzDaKatx2

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    My two cents, find a forest to hang out in.

    Hey, I'll volunteer to help with that test study anytime as well.

    In fact maybe a bunch of us should go for a hike into the Amargosa canyon with a 10 strip a head. ;)

    About the only place on earth I could imagine tripping in the daytime.
     
  16. Mr.Writer

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    When I told my dealer I had taken 5 hits he got angry with me and said "you're not supposed to take that much" hahaha. did you sell me acid freshdacre? stop it already, dont even pretend you have the strongest acid in the world. you got some decent stuff and ive had decent stuff too. stop being a pussy and take 5 hits. you don't know what high dose is. just take the plunge, say fuck it and see what the big fucking deal is. afraid you can't handle it?
     
  17. FritzDaKatx2

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    5 hits is not being a pussy? :D
     
  18. Mr.Writer

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    I know right? Like 5 hits is a big dose, lol. It's moderate at best.
     
  19. FreshDacre

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    Mabey your acid is as good as mine i'm not trying to say I have some of the "best" acid, its just it seems like some of you don't even know how much I trip just by taking one.
    Don't even say 5 is "moderate" that's bs. I have tripped with like 15 different people, and the most I have seen anyone do of the stuff I have is 3 doses, and he was tripping harder than I have ever seen anyone trip ever. He pissed his pants twice. How fuckng out of it do you have to be o do that?? I don't think you tripped hard enough to not know you were pissing yourself mr writer.
    Yes, it is intimidating, especially since if you take too much it will make you go retarded, and that is what i'm scared of. There was a point when I was on the two doses, I felt like everything was a cartoon just fully dumbed down, and I swear I never talked about this before, but I was listening to this song on my earphones that I never had heard before this, but everything just felt like I was literally in a cartoon, and I could hear the music fitting perfectly in the sunny day, everything was green and moving like some detailed graphic art, at this point I felt it, the very peak of the trip. I seriously felt like if I was to take any more LSD at all, I would have went insane. I just felt so fucked up, when everything came together it was the most beautiful thing, but yeah besides that I felt like it was all I could/wanted to handle. In this moment, I was with one of my cats, and I swear to god, the lyrics in the song, I actually felt like my cat was talking to me. I felt like the two doses unlocked something, that english is bullshit, because we don't need it since we are psychic, I felt like in that moment I learned that I already naturally know how to communicate with ANY living being. Thats when I felt a little awkward around my cat, because I realized that I was wrong before that about him not understanding me and me not understanding him, it's like the LSD broke a huge barrier and we could communicate just as well as humans, so I talked to my cat, and we made understanding that I like that barrier, because I like cats because I don't have to think of conversation all the time, I just really enjoy them being friendly and quiet.
    The song I am talking about when I was peaking, it was on Ministry of Sound, and it was going "juice to party, juice to party" and that is what my cat was saying. It taught me that the purpose of life is "juice to party" and that you don't need to just party with humans, because all living creatures are living all want to have fun and party, and that is how you get the most out of it all by spending time with the living things that you love.

    I do have 2 hits atm, so I can't take 5 no matter how much you want me to go crazy mr. Writer, but my hook says he can get some and I will be going back to his area in about 30-40 days, so I'll let you know around then if I am going to do more, but like I said in this post, I don't want to go insane.
     
  20. PB_Smith

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    Well, I guess if that is what you believe then the first thing you should do is stop listening to your friends, forget all the urban legends and goverment and media horror stories and go educate yourself about LSD.
    I just destroyed some joker who made a lot of claims about the dangers of LSD and read a lot of research about it.
    http://hubpages.com/hub/Medical-Studies-Prove-The-Extensive-Damage-LSD-Does-To-The-Body-Mind

    LSD is probably the safest thing a person can ingest that has such profound effects. It's quite frankly safer than caffiene. That is not my opinion, it's proven medical scientific fact.

    Here are couple of examples of REAL RESEARCH about LSD.

    First from a hubpage I created in response to the afforementioned debate;

    http://hubpages.com/hub/Medical_Studies_Investigate_Drugs_LSD-25_Medicine_or_Menace

    One other concern is lasting psychosis resulting from LSD use. Again this occurs vary rarely and has been determined to actually be the emergence of latent mental illness accelerated or manifested due to the LSD experience. Any studies using LSD put prospective subjects through extensive psychological assessment prior to being admitted into the study. A very recent and ongoing study using LSD to treat cluster headaches has reached this conclusion as to the risks associated with using LSD;

    "Based on the evidence, we have determined that two long-term risks are possible with the clinical use of LSD:

    •Perceptual, resulting in flashbacks
    •Psychological, manifesting as PTSD, panic attacks, or emergence of latent psychological disorders
    These risks appear rare and manageable when weighed against the potential treatment gains, thus warranting further clinical, controlled study of LSD for the treatment of cluster headaches."


    http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:qGGR_ehqIb0J:www.clusterbusters.com

    That is a risk report done in 2007 from a study about using LSD to treat cluster headaches. Those were the only two risks they found with LSD.

    This is from Albert Hofmann's book ; LSD My Problem Child;
    http://www.psychedelic-library.org/child.htm

    "Pharmacological Properties of LSD
    LSD is absorbed easily and completely through the gastrointestinal tract. It is therefore unnecessary to inject LSD, except for special purposes. Experiments on mice with radioactively labeled LSD have established that intravenously injected LSD disappeared down to a small vestige, very rapidly from the bloodstream and was distributed throughout the organism. Unexpectedly, the lowest concentration is found in the brain. It is concentrated here in certain centers of the midbrain that play a role in the regulation of emotion. Such findings give indications as to the localization of certain psychic functions in the brain.
    The concentration of LSD in the various organs attains maximum values 10 to 15 minutes after injection, then falls off again swiftly. The small intestine, in which the concentration attains the maximum within two hours, constitutes an exception. The elimination of LSD is conducted for the most part (up to some 80 percent) through the intestine via liver and bile. Only 1 to 10 percent of the elimination product exists as unaltered LSD; the remainder is made up of various transformation products.
    As the psychic effects of LSD persist even after it can no longer be detected in the organism, we must assume that LSD is not active as such, but that it rather triggers certain biochemical, neurophysiological, and psychic mechanisms that provoke the inebriated condition and continue in the absence of the active principle.

    LSD stimulates centers of the sympathetic nervous system in the midbrain, which leads to pupillary dilatation, increase in body temperature, and rise in the blood-sugar level. The uterine-constricting activity of LSD has already been mentioned.
    An especially interesting pharmacological property of LSD, discovered by J. H. Gaddum in England, is its serotonin-blocking effect. Serotonin is a hormone-like substance, occurring naturally in various organs of warm-blooded animals. Concentrated in the midbrain, it plays an important role in the propagation of impulses in certain nerves and therefore in the biochemistry of psychic functions. The disruption of natural functioning of serotonin by LSD was for some time regarded as an explanation of its psychic effects. However, it was soon shown that even certain derivatives of LSD (compounds in which the chemical structure of LSD is slightly modified) that exhibit no hallucinogenic properties, inhibit the effects of serotonin just as strongly, or yet more strongly, than unaltered LSD. The serotonin-blocking effect of LSD thus does not suffice to explain its hallucinogenic properties.
    LSD also influences neurophysiological functions that are connected with dopamine, which is, like serotonin, a naturally occurring hormone-like substance. Most of the brain centers receptive to dopamine become activated by LSD, while the others are depressed.
    As yet we do not know the biochemical mechanisms through which LSD exerts its psychic effects. Investigations of the interactions of LSD with brain factors like serotonin and dopamine, however, are examples of how LSD can serve as a tool in brain research, in the study of the biochemical processes that underlie the psychic functions."


    The section in bold demonstrates that LSD is rapidly metabolized in the body and very little is found in the brain after a very short period of time. I highly doubt that high doses cause any brain damage. The only long term effect associated with LSD is HPPD and it's occurance is relatively rare.

    FreshDacre and anyone else reading this, there is tons of REAL information on the net about LSD, it's the most reseached drug known. Why do you hold on to urban legends, scare stories and myth when it is so easy to get the TRUTH about it? If you can take the time out of your day to participate in these forums, then you can take the time to educate yourself about the substances you put into your body.

    Your fears are based in rumor and misinformation. The truth will set you free.
     

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