Hezbollah Videos

My point is that to the dead hostage, blame and responisibility are irrelevant.

The much discussed "whose fault is it" disussion often ignores the dead and makes it seem as Lebanon was getting hurt. No, Lebanon is an abstraction; it is people and bridges and powerplants... did I mention people?... are getting blown up. (P.S. Israel is another abstraction and the people who live there are among the victims of this war.)
Argh...my frustration in this area is leading me to make off topic posts.
I should collect my thoughts and start another thread.

Sorry, Thanks..

 

Dirk_Pitt​

Hey! do ya want me to accuse ppl? and yeah what are the sources​

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And are ya one of them? ​

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you want my comment on this, you get the info.​

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regarding what? you know it depends, but these videos I really don't know about it​

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Oh they have planes I didn't know that and they chose the war, they have to watch only , there weapons are very similar to the israeli ones.​

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were these mistakes? and did their technology became stupid at the time, did Israel said so?​

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Nah. why should we take from one angle.​

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A crook (Mark) takes a hostage, The crook (Mark) is firing on the cops (criminals because they began that NB This is the war on lebanon) from behind the Hostage. ​

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The cops (criminals ) shoot through the hostage in order to get the crook , killing the hostage.​

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Who does the hostage blame? The crinimals should shot Mark only, cannot do so go away,and as I said: let's assume these hostages were the criminal Bush, Rice, Olmert, would the criminals (Cops in the example) shoot through the hostage in order to get Mark? if their blood and souls are cheap he may do so.
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That was the only place he found, he wasn't killing the civilians but the criminlas,HUH! as israel don't kill civilians!!!!! And again they have super-sophisticated technology , so fire at the target only.

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As I said we have to look at th incident from its four angles​

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You said many not all, and that's it, look in these directions were you see possibilities or things or call it whatever you want.​

I think you got my answer anyway​

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*Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

Dirk_Pitt​

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you know that he is the leader of the Group, All of them are members of that party, anyway, you said, they denied it.​

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Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

Dirk_Pitt​

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Ok what are they, you said the defenders denied it, and you got my answer anyway.
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No it won't end tomorrow, 'cause my beloved lord told us about things which must take place first.​

But you didn't provided me with what I asked ya and that's why you said:​

Search the news archives for the last few days.​

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Hey! I answred, or are ya talking about another question?

you lost me, doesn't matter , you got my answer anyway.

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Try to get me, read your comment and my comment on it again, or forget it, 'cause you got my answer to your very main q anyway

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you completely lost me I think, I was talking about the terrorist israel, get it.

Did they and if so, how they didn't mean so

I gave ya the complete scenario in my POV ​

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Nah, The Criminals began that, they want to kill him unjustly, Mark shouldn't turn his other cheek.

Did I say that ya said so?

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And were they accidents?

Nah, I don't think so, I differ with ya

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Call it wahtevre you want ​

*Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

Dirk_Pitt​

Masha'Allah, These are very nice words , this is the post of the day, Congrats​

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*Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

Dirk_Pitt​

I didn't say you said that Sayyed Hassan said so did I?​

Dirk_Pitt: Hezbollah fighters have denied being there behind that building Post#27​

*Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

Yesha Rabbinical Council: During time of war, enemy has no innocents
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*Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

i seem to remember that the british used to punish the civillian population for those pesky rebels who wanted ownership of what was theirs in the war of independence.

i understand now that the americans have to seriously revise their history and who was responsible for what. its obvious that the blame for any attrocities lies not at the feet of the british but at the americans because they were the ones resisting.

 

CatStevens, I will ignore your comments... because you are a fanatic.

The UN is completely powerless in the middle east and Kofi Annan is an anti-semite as it is. They can impose all the sanctions in the world on Syria and Iran, but the world would still buy the oil they produce and terrorist supporters will still finance them.

Syria and Iran would also never negotiate with the Western World... Iran actually just banned all use of English in the country.

There is just seems to be no solution here. I would rather see the Israeli people doing something about this rather than just sitting there and letting the country deteriorate into pulp.

 

Iran won't. Ahmadinejad is a theocrtically selected anti-semite who spews hatred for the west.

Syria on the other hands, are much less theocratic and much more tribal. They can be negotiated with and want to be. Iran needs to be militarily isolated which will be hard to do due to their wealth of oil, and diplomatically, which will be easier.

Syria can likely be negotiated. They've said they want to be engaged, but the US doesn't even have an ambassador to Syria.

I understand you want to stand by your countrymen, but carrying out bombing raids won't win effectivly aginst Hezbollah, even street by street fighting won't win effectively aginst them.

Lebanon is among the few really pro-democratic countries of the middle east.

The way I see to effectively disarm them is to engage Syria to stop supporting them, Isolate Iran from them, and have Lebanon revise it's constitution to say no foreign backed parties can be elected.

That would seperate Hezbollahs political wing from it's military wing. You would need an local force of some kind, (Turkish and Egyptian hopefully and maybe some EU) to be a peacekeeping force in Southern Lebanon until Lebanon can police itself.

You can't stop a deeply rooted insurgency by bombing. It's killed about 1-3 civilians for every Hezbollah it's killed. Street by street fighting wouldn't be better, and more costly to Israel.

And after that what then? The buffer in Lebanon didn't work. It won't work again. Hezbollah will just become rooted elsewhere across the Middle East. Stateless enemies can't be fought very well conventionally.

And the cost to Lebanese is horrible. I support Israels right to exist and defend itself, but I also want to find a solution where there isn't a need for a war every decade.

 

I agree about Syria, they will negotiate on paper. Sadly though, all of the Hizbolla's political and financial support comes out of Iran... they are just partially stationed in Syria.

For Iran to be milirary isolated, a full out war would be necessary. There would have to be US and Israeli forces there, because no one else in the international community would do it.

This is not about standing by my "countymen", I do not claim Israeilis as my country-man... I am dodging the bloody draft in that country. It is about standing by what is RIGHT.

The buffer zone has to be created by Israel so that the international peace-keeping forces could go in there. If they go in there now, they will be slaughtered by the Hizbollah... it's amazing how the global community does not realize this.

Lebanon cannot be pro-democracy if it still supports the Hizbollah, which is a terrorist organization by every standard.

There is no "effective" way to win a guerrilla terrorist group... but for Israel to sit on its ass and wait for the UN to give the Hizbollah and Iran a dozen ultimatums which will never be complied is rediculous.

I agree, the cost in Lebanon is horrible... but if Israel does nothing now, then the violence will continue... forever. With the Hizbollah out of Lebanon, the amount of suicide bombings and katyusha attacks would dramatically decrease in Israel and then the peace process can be continued.

 

Dirk_Pitt​

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what how many times should I repeat​

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1.Are these old videos?​

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2. Are they fake videos.​

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3. Where these houses empty at the time.​

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I know you don't know the answers, but we should ask these questions​

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So Israel & US​

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Hey, I'm talking to ya, put those other ppl aside​

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Foxnews ​

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I don't know if you know my opinion about Foxnews​

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Huh! I answered this question! and said they are blameless i.e. NO, but BTW did ya tell me that the answer should be yes or No​

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Read your comment again, then my comment on it, I even forget what it was about ​

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Nah, lost me, try again, try harder​

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Source + Were they saying the Truth =)​

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Yours is uncomplete in my POV how many times should I repeat, now this very very boring we are talking about what's going on in lebanon.​

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It Seemed to ya, and you are wrong​

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Source + Were they saying the Truth =)​

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*Peace and love* ​

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Yours Sincerely,​

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Cat Stevens​

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Dirk_Pitt

I don't think so, 'cause many ppl are selfish and when they see beautiful things they want it to them only and more of it, don't want to share it with the others and yeah they may steal others' beautiful things.

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Yours Sincerely,​

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Dirk_Pitt​

Originally Posted by Dirk_Pitt​

But I DID NOT say HE said Just the locals. I clarified that did I not?Post#34​

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Originally Posted by Dirk_Pitt​

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Hezbollah fighters have denied being there behind that building Post#27​

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*Peace and love* ​

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Yours Sincerely,​

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Dirk_Pitt
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Let me sum up my posts ​

Please read first my post fully ​

These videos comming out claiming to show Hezbollah firing Katyusha rockets from civilian populated areas. One is purportedly to show rockets being fired from a position next to a 3 story residential building ( in Qana (Where these buildings empty at the time in the videos+
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The terrorist Israel and US have super-sophisticated technology, why they didn't just fire rockets at him? Not at the building.
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). They say the video has not been confirmed to be the same building According to Dirk _Pitt Hezbollah denies being there
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These questions should be asked(of course I'm not looking for the answers from ppl on these forums becase I think they don't know)
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1.What is the clarification or comment of sayyed Hassan or Hezbollah on that? were the resistant from the beginning there, or something happen which Compelled them to go there? (NB they weren't firing at the ppl but at the enemy who has no right to kill them, Israel declared its war on ppl who defend their lands,, it could be the best and the only place where they can do so or do ya want them to go in open Area's to be killed in one second and again The terrorist Israel and US have super-sophisticated technology, why they didn't just fire rockets at him? Not at the building )
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2.Are they confirmed videos or fabricated or old?
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3. Where these houses in the videos empty at the time.
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4.were these houses belong to the resistant?
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as for the Scenario here it is
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Samer (belongs to the Hezbollah party he defends his lands from the frequent attempts by Israel to invade his land as it did before and frequent violation of Lebanon air space) Israel declared its war on Samer!!! the defender, and this is unjust because Samer's job was completely legal, anyway, Israel is firing rockets at his country and brothers in the Party and out of the party, He want to kill those who are killing his brothers and Israel is looking for him to kill him, Samer find A house (Don't know whether it was his house or empty -let's assume that it wasn't empty and belongs to other ppl (did he ask them to get out but they refused, let's assume he didn't) he is anyway behind the house about 6 or 8 metres, he didn't fire rockets at those ppl but at the criminal Israel, Israel has super-sophisticated technology, why it didn't just fire rockets at him? Not at the building. Samer is COMPLETELY BLAMELESS, ISRAEL IS THE RESPONSIBLE.
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Israel should shot Samer only, let's assume that those ppl in the house were the criminal Bush, Rice, Olmert, would Israel shoot through the Building in order to get Samer? if their blood and souls are cheap it may do so
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that's my opinion. very simple English,
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Over.
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*Peace and love*
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Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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BraveSirRubin​

you think so, Anyway, Good, I need much time, you know you said: Argh...my frustration in this area is leading me to make off topic posts. (maybe it would lead to other things )I don't know how much time I saved Alhamdulilah anyway
I should collect my thoughts and start another thread.
yeah, you need some rest as well probably. ​

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Because (NB) you don't have to answer any of my questions)​

Aha that explains a lot​

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Why are they doing so? ​

And Do ya want them negotiate with those who want them to bow to their orders.​

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in which case Exactly.​

OK after reading your post, I'm fanatic you are what, I leave it to yourself =D​

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Yours Sincerely,
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I posted the source and also the date sometimes if you don't find it in my post (the date) check the source there you will find the date and other info, plus I saw them in the news these days news

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Have ya ever heard that Israel in this War captured two men , it claimed that they are from Hezbollah, hahaha they were civilians then it released them, Don't ask me about the source, google it, I watched it on TV, that was reported on TV as news but then the revealed the truth, so, let's waite, we should hear from the both sides, anyway Hezbollah's fighters already denied it as ya siad, and the reported that as news ​

I shouldn't believe whatever I see and hear​

Now, how many times you lied in this thread only! I will stop replying to your threads if you will keep doing so, here what happened (this is very boring and wasting for time)​

Post#24:Let's wait, or are ya hasty? the world won't end tomorrow.​

Post#27: For many the world may very well end tomorrow or today. ​

Post#30: And are ya one of them? ​

Post#32: Hopefully not but in this world today you really do not know do you?

Other Good link.

Were they in the middle of them, or behind, and how many metres were they far from them, and in these videos were these houses empty at the time, plus Israel Can with its technoology fire at him only. and one more thing: Israel should shot the fighter only, let's assume that those ppl in the buildings were the criminal Bush, Rice, Olmert, would Israel shoot through the Building in order to get the fighter? if their blood and souls are cheap it may do so

He is protecting the entire country, those are killing his brothers he wants to kill those who are killing them, that was the only best place, he isn't firing at the civilians but at the criminals who are killing his brothers and looking for him to kill him, Israel can only shot him.

Many ppl in Lebanon rely on others reporting to know what's going on as well.

This is completely boring, I ment Israel should only shot the target in the civilians Area, and I clarified to Lodui that I mixed things there 'cause I was replying in a hury, now you get it.​

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Israel KNoW, that Hezbollah don't have the similar weapons, they chose the war, face the consequences, put your ppl in shelters (who most of them according to a poll with this war) or get out of Israel.​

We are talking about what's going on in Lebanon, Accordingly your Scenario is uncomplete. ​

It depends on from who you heard it and we have to give the other side a chance ​

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if he can prove it, then no.​

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Dirk_Pitt​

Of course, but not at the expense of others ( I was talking politically)​

Thank you very much, and this beauty And Peace originally from Allah ^^​

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Thanks​

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Cat Stevens
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Dirk_Pitt​

The fighters already denied being there, plus Israel with its technology can only shot the target.​

What if there was no other safe places?​

Choose other weapons which achieve the Goal only.​

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According to whoeva These are being shown as NEW and REAL​

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the video has not been confirmed to be the same building According to you Hezbollah denies being there (in Qana) I was asking if these buildings were in other areas not in Qana were they empty at the time, get it.
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*Peace and love*
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Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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*Peace and love*
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Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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