Yes, I am trying to scare the op. What can happen to your life when you become an addict is something to be scared of. While the op will not necessarily become an addict, it is the likely outcome, and indeed, trying heroin has lead many people down the road to sucking cock for a fix. I guess what I'm saying here is that if ending up as a street prostitute to pay for your habit is not a possibility you can live with, don't try heroin in the first place. We can debate how likely it is that you end up in that position, but that is a possible outcome. So yes, trying a bag of heroin can ultimately put the op in the position of sucking cock for a fix, and many people have gone down that road. As far as narrow minded and noobish, I think there are probably some folks who have been through the experience of addiction who would agree, and who wished they had never tried heroin. I'm content that the op or anyone has the right to make their own decisions, even if those decisions turn out to be bad ones. My hope is that the op can can come to his own conclusions, but with a realistic sense of the dangers involved. Like I said, we can debate the likely hood that trying his first bag leads to a series of events where he ends up sucking cock for a fix, but if the op wants to be absolutely sure he doesn't end up in that place, then trying H sounds like a bad idea.
The answer is no you wont, you'll get high, throw up at some point and probably fall asleep. My advice is dont snort or shoot it, run it on tinfoil and let the first couple of lines run without inhaling most of the crap with what its probably cut with will get left behind. Be warned until you get a taste for it it tastes like shit. I used for a couple of years, never injected only smoked n occasionally snorted it. Also used to do cocktails with coke/crack/meth and brown, its a bit mad as you come up and down. You really dont want to bother with it, just swallow a bunch of pills with codine/dihydracodine in them for the same effect. I love that sweet brown sugar but keep well away from as i know if i do probably end up back on it in no time.
Telling someone to abstain from a drug cause they will become a junkie is like saying that everyone who has sex will get aids. Does this mean that peeps are gonna give up sex because they may get a terrible disease and die? I haven't seen a decline, people are still poundin away and having illegitimate kids. I kinda wish people had a bigger scare with sex. Would be less std's and unwanted children and less of an overpopulation problem. But sex just like drugs feels good, so people will continue to do both no matter the consequences. And codeine being just as good as dope? Seriously? WTF?
Be careful who you tell. I considered buying h for my birthday. Only told two people, my boyfriend at the time who was fine with it and wanted to do it with me and one of the friends I had been confiding in for alot of different things for years. He ended up emailing my brother who then forwarded the email to my father. ....scary shit lol.
i didn't really find that to be a narrow minded statement. EVERY junkie whose life is now completely ruined started off with that one bag. Trying heroin just seems idiotic to me; sure, you can use the argument that not becoming addicted involves responsibility and self control, but every user goes in with that attitude. How many of those people make it out without becoming addicted? How many people that become addicted make it out alive? Plus, a person that tries heroin even one time is already throwing responsibility out the window. Trying a highly addictive drug that can easily cause an overdose, especially for a new user that isn't aware how much his/her body can handle, doesn't seem very responsible to me. Just sayin'. 3 out of 4 heroin addicts make it out alive. I dont know if that statistic is true, but anthony bourdain wrote that in his book Kitchen Confidential. He told the story of how he had just scored some H with 4 of his friends and he pointed that out on the car ride home. He's alive, the other 3 people are dead. I really don't think its worth the risk.
The odds of getting HIV from sex is actually pretty slim, especially if you use a condom and don't have anal sex. I don't think there is any comparison here. I've known five people who have used heroin, and all of them became addicts. I know that at least two were able to rehab, I don't know what happened to the rest. Heroin is one of the most addictive drugs available, and the consequences of addiction are pretty severe. I'm not saying that everyone who tries it becomes an addict, but the odds of addiction are about as high as they get. Heroin has earned a reputation as a drug that destroys lives of addicts and frequently kills them. I don't think you should try it if you can't deal with the possibility of becoming an addict. It's your choice to use or not to use, just don't be naive about where it may take you.
Addiction is such a scary thing. No one who isn't addicted/has been addicted can understand where the people warning them are coming from. They think they know better.. Until they are in that position as well.
"3 out of 4 heroin addicts make it out alive" then you tell a story to prove your point, yet you say that 1 lives, and the other 3 are dead. its hard to take advice from a comment like that...
she says nothing about 1 lives and the other 3 are dead. Where are you quoting 1 lives and 3 are dead?
I meant to say, 1 out of 4 heroin addicts make it out alive. does that make more sense to you? either way, I dont really care if people take my advice. I've kind of noticed a trend on this forum...there are an awful lot of hard drug users. I like to stick to pot for personal enhancement and the occasional shroom trip for exploration. Hard drugs don't enhance anything; they block it out completely. This seems sad to me. But if people prefer to completely blot out life rather than enjoying it for both the beauty and the horror of it, thats their business. I'm just saying, heroin is dangerous and stupid. just my personal opinion. I'm certainly not giving advice. Everyone already knows heroin is dangerous and stupid so what new advice do i have to offer?
Yes. And if you really want to be 100% sure that you don't become an alcoholic then don't drink. But the comparison between alcohol and heroin is not reasonable. The rate of addiction is much, much higher with heroin. The onset of addiction is much, much faster. Death from overdose/contamination is much, much higher. The risk of associated diseases is much, much higher (if you bleach needles, you're not likely to get HIV or Hep C from shooting, but a lot of IV users get HIV and Hep C from dirty needles). The number of functional addicts is much, much lower with heroin. The cost of heroin is much, much higher. If what I've read is correct, addicts typically spend somewhere between $100-$250 per day for heroin. A lot of addicts become prostitutes to pay for it.
yes , everybody is differant no,, trying heroin 1 time wont make you an addict.but dont shoot it. thats a whole nother ballgame. but really ask yourself why.some decisions arent easy to come back from. i was lucky enough to pull self out. are you willing to allow it to become THE DRIVING FORCE in your life? ill say it,, from a brother thats been there, done that. DONT. you have better odds playing russian roulette, and it will be over faster.
I tried heroin, I would say round 10 times during 3 years. Don't really like it but it's not that bad. See no reason why not to try it if you want to. I like what McKenna wrote about heroin and cigarettes. Something like heroin is no worse than cigarettes (which are very bad) and most of problems that you don't have with cigarettes are cuz heroin is illegal.
I can see the appeal, why you might want to try it. The reason why it's so appealing to me is because it's like a forbidden fruit. You're not supposed to eat this forbidden fruit because if you do your life will essentially go to hell, but you want to eat it anyways because it's supposed to be the best piece of fruit you'll ever taste. There's something about all of the people who risk trying it knowing it might very well ruin their lives that makes it seem worthwhile. Wish I could say "don't do it, think about the children" but I really can't. I think the way everyone responds is blown out of preportion, you don't get addicted the first hit. You're not an addict if you've tried it a couple times it's considered a bender. I think everyone is looking out for the possibility that you say "fuck it" and just do it all the time or whenever you want because you had a good experience with it. But you won't have a good experience with it if the first time you do it you IV. YOU WILL puke, and it won't be pleasant. There's a good chance if you IV with no tolerance, and don't know the potency that something could go wrong. Do a rail or smoke it, the IV thing, that's something you work up to. Anyways goodluck man! do your research.
I.V. heroin.... never tried it that way.. ex-junkie friend told me it's all about rush.... I'm sure that's true and using it that way you risk MUCH higher possibility of becoming addicted.
Ive never done it and don't plan to but I would iv heroin if I did it. The needle can definitely be addicting pretty much in and of itself so I can see how it may be more addicting that way. I don't really care for the opiate high though with the few I've tried, heroin has little appeal to me.
why the fuck are you in the opiate section? comin in here and saying that heroin is stupid. then you say you only do shrooms and smoke weed like you think you're better then us. just because people prefer opiates, including heroin, doesn't mean they're stupid and terrible people. get the fuck outta here you tree huggin hippy
