Here we go 2c-e Death :(

Oops, I forgot they snorted it. This story kinda ruined my day.

 

It is certainly a sad story but there is nothing you could've done to prevent it, acknowledge it as a loss of a fellow psychedelic user but don't dwell upon it. I'm an ecstasy user and we lose a few people every year due to reckless behavior, especially with adulterated pills its hard to prevent, This definitely seems like a freak incident and most likely will not happen again.

 

This makes me realize that these chemicals shouldn't be so easy for anyone to get. Espiecially kids with no experience or desire to safely explore. It sucks that some kid heard about this drug somehow, took the time to find a source and for some reason thought it would be ok to give it to other people without even properly dosing it. It sucks for him, the others involved, their families and for us. It's impossible to find these drugs without reading SOMETHING about the danger of not correctly weighing them. I'm just baffled that someone could be so stupid to randomly distribute unknown amounts of a very potent drug to people. Maybe he had no concern for the other kids well being, but did'nt the thought ever cross his mind of what would happen to him if someone got hurt from a drug he gave them? I have a sinking feeling that this will be the catalyst to a UK-like blanket scheduling of everything.

This kid made a conscious decision to blatently ignore all the information about this drug, and that momentary lapse of reason has negatively impacted a lot of peoples lives. It's so incredibly stupid, sad and unecessary.

 

Well said!

 

There needs to be some kind of "medical marijuana" type of deal with psychedelics. Regulate production, distribution and access. It's unsettling that people this stupid have access to these things, in these amounts. And it's even more unsettling that people like us will loose access because of people like that. It's not fair :'(

 

Though who's to say who can and can't access psychs?

 

If you're old enough to deal with psychedelics you should be old enough to take responsibility and be aware of the dangers that might occure if something goes wrong. Obviously both of those things were lacking in this incident.

 

Everyone should have a right to use pychs if they want to. And there should be safe, quality controlled access. Someone who intends to distribute unmeasured doses to unsuspecting victims shouldn't have access to pychs.

 

I agree with you completely I just wonder how you would assess someone's chances of gaining access to psychs. Personally I know who I would and wouldn't give psychs to but that's mostly a user/non user divide, I guess every user was once a nonuser.

When they are specifically prescribed like med MJ I can see it working, but I cant see how you would implement a barrier to access which is guarded by some sort of test.

This may not be what you're saying I'm just musing.

 

Just found a few articles saying it was 2C-I, not 2C-E. Also the wikipedia article for 2C-E no longer has any info about it, and the 2C-I article cites the incident.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/20/synthetic-drug-2c-1-kills-teen_n_838056.html

http://www.citizensreport.org/2011/03/20/synthetic-drugs-lead-to-teen’s-death/

Although this article says the kids thought it was 2C-I, but it was actually 2C-E:

http://www.twincities.com/ci_17640526

What's with the confusion?

 

Psychedelics should be available for all to access.
If we sell them with warnings concerning taking dosages that are too high, or if we start teaching kids from a young age that psychedelics aren't something to be irresponsible with, then we wouldn't have nearly as many problems with them.

After all, we have enough faith in all humans over 18+ (or 21 in some places) to drink alcohol responsibly.

 

Stupid people who don't understand the things they're demonizing.

The original articles all had the same stock pictures with the same captions. They all had a picture of 2c-e, and a picture of 2c-i, and both captions said that was the drug that caused the OD.

They don't know what the fuck they're talking about. And there's been more than one thing to point to a mixture of drugs in the first place.

About you saying that psychedelics should be regulated... duh.

You can't teach people to safely use drugs if you're too busy arresting them and putting them in the same legal class as heroin.

*edit* even huffpo have their heads up their asses, this has NOTHING to do with synthetic marijuana, maybe we could get to the issue at hand if they didn't say that and as such, make half the comments about legalizing the "real thing". Weed is not the issue, personal freedom and prohibitions failures are the issues.

They're just trying to mix this up and make it easier to make people connect this with "synthetic marijuana" (a silly idea and a silly name, and a product that does not, never has, and never will exist(ed)) so that it's easier to ban both.

Also, see what those sneaky fucks keep doing with the JWH ban? they keep making it sound like some sort of battle was won on spice... NOTHING changed, other than the situation getting more dangerous with what goes into the shit, although now LEO's have an excuse for arresting anyone smoking anything they claim is legal, and they may say "I didn't know... but it looks like this illegal "synthetic marijuana" to me!" in court and get charges shoved through.

 

I agree. Drug education is everything but education. They use scare tactics and teach false information. Its very detrimental. Knowing that kids are more than likely gonna try alcohol and drugs they might as well teach them the importance of educating themselves about effects, dosages, moderation, ect and show them where to find such information. True life examples of how ignorance have ruined lives and killed people are important too but not in such a condescending way as its usually done now. Knowing how a drug works on the brain and how it causes addiction such as opiates would really bring things into perspective instead of just telling them 'you will get addicted and die'. Not to mention its pretty interesting stuff and that goes beyond just drug education.

 

guys! everyone stay away from 2C-1. someone just ODed on it!

 

lol!

 

Well shit, I'll tell all my friends with kids..... lock your doors, and beware 2C-1 pushers trying to get your kids hooked!

Also, I heard 2C-1 is often put on temporary tattoos of blue stars, or cute cartoon characters, so that kids lick it and get hooked without even meaning to. And if you even hold a tattoo, it can be absorbed through your skin and get you addicted.

 

Hmm, I think you're on to something here...blame a nonexistant chemical, get it banned, the irrational anti-drug people get to sleep soundly, and RCs stay legal! Everybody wins!

 

yeah, we should definitely ban 2c-one

 

^^^I'll sign the petition

 

Hahaha its funny that they got the name of the chemical wrong in the title of the article even though throughout the article its referred to correctly ... fire the editor of that article please lol