i offered the best advice in this thread by giving him the source of professional help... you can eat a dick - not like you havent eaten a few boxes of em already
I kinda read a "tough love" attitude in his first response here and left it alone.... I didn't see it as a likely personal attack but a natural response to someone who recognized that an individual chose to lay something this heavy on a group of people he/she apparently considers friends- perhaps the cold slap that might wake the individual up and save him/herself. I did see it and thought about it and that's where I got to.
If no “created thing” can separate a Christian from G-d’s love, and even a Christian who commits suicide is a “created thing,” then not even suicide can separate a Christian from G-d’s love. Jesus died for all of our sins, and if a true Christian, in a time of spiritual attack and weakness, commits suicide, that would still be a sin covered by the blood of Christ... Suicide is still a serious sin against G-d.. Youll probable have to pick up papers in Pearly Gate park with the holy collection bag.. it will take an eternity..
because its logical to tell a potential suicide victim to just do it.. this person.. whom ever it may be has already been dealt a bunch of "cold slaps" in life.. and this is the point he/she is at.. oh yes.. one more will do him good
He didn't actually tell the person to do it. He lashed out at someone who chose to lay this on the community while being sure to let everyone know that no one is going to be able to dissuade- essentially playing for some level of audience to this process. Clearly a cry for help on one level. You've demonstrated a number of times your antipathy toward purp. I see your thing here as just another way of airing that out for you. If you think his post is inappropriate then report it and we'll render a judgment but DO NOT use these forums as a personal venting wall for you to attack people you choose to dislike. Please do not try my patience.
what else do you think he's telling him to remove himself from? his computer chair?... just close this thread.
this is to the OP... You've heard a lot of philisophical bs tossed about in this thread in response to your post. I'm pretty sure that not much of it meant anything to you, as you say you've been around here for a while and have seen it all said before, so I won't bother with any of it... It's your life, do as you will with it... But, instead of ending your life... why not try a different life first instead. Look around the board, especially at the posts where people offer an alternative to 'normal life' and go try one. You say you are giving yourself to the end of the school year to decide... why waste the last months of your life on something that won't do you any good? Give those months to something else... anything else... Perhaps go on the road with thc, or go visit oldwolf or hhb and offer your hands... maybe nothing will change and you will still feel the same, but at least you will be giving something back to the world of people that you claim to love. Perhaps though, you will find that your tiredness of this world, is only related to the way you are currently seeing it... Perhaps, you will find that being involved in something real will give you what you feel you are missing as you are... Of course, whatever you do decide... don't put it on others... make it your own decision and don't add to the burden of those who will remain afterwards by giving the illusion that they could have in some way helped you.
Okay- I modified his first post removing that sentence- it did cross the line to some extent-- the rest of the context of the post essentially was to the effect of "get some help instead of laying this on us" which was the context I read into that sentence. When something of this potential magnitude gets put on strangers you really have to expect some anger in response. How happy did you think discovering this type of thing made me... but on the chance that it might be helpful I left it up... but KNOWING that this type of exchange between purp and a couple of you is an almost certainty. If the intent is to not get help then the only other motivation is attention- and to drag down the collective state of mind of a group supposedly valued by the person.
As of right now youknowme's profile has had at least 35 visitors, I would say 36 as the count reads but I am going to assume that the OP has visited that page as well as people have started to post there also. So, I am also going to assume that the OP is among the list of people who could be the OP. http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/member.php?u=181981
I think it's time that the OP at least to respond to these messages. You are not going to get much more of a response to this thread without it due to the title of the thread and only the people who have responded to it know about it. We would all like to hear from you. Thanks, David
This is making sense. To OP- WHAT did hope to accomplish by initiating this in the first place? If you're dealing with thoughts of suicide then you should seek out someone who can talk you through the issues that brought you to this point. Laying it on here can't accomplish much of anything constructive and it's a sure way to stir the pot- which it has. Whether you are able to resolve your issues, you've planted this in the minds of people who have enough other problems they can actually hope to deal with... I fail to see anything positive from this given that you're not going to take any advice posted in response. You have chosen to take a very, very serious topic related to your personal demons and post it in a forum where people come to relax and banter... to chill... on one hand you express affinity for the community but you lay this on everyone using an anonymous account apparently created for just this purpose. Some folks are not going to respond positively to such a move... particularly when your own words suggest that the purpose for this is pure drama... a buzzkill. This is not the mental health forum- it's the Stoner's Lounge- I can fully understand why purp posted what he did- though I can't endorse advising someone to off himself. I'm sorry you're feeling this way. May I suggest logging off the internet and seeking some professional help?
Well, it's still hard to say, it shows the last 18 people who visited the page but it's all people who've been active in the past 24 hours.
Yes, that is correct. I believe that the OP also visited the member profile. That would make them active. This person said that they have not been posting that much as of late and that they used to be really active. I think I know who it is as do several others I have spoke to through a PM, but it is up to the OP to expose who they are and it's their privacy. We may never really know who this person is but I also think that enough of us have expressed our own battles with depression and thoughts of killing themselves that the OP should not be ashamed. It's nothing to be ashamed about, this problem is very common with teens. I am encouraged by another statment that the OP made that they were planing on doing it later. That just tells me these are still just thoughts and no plans have been made. Stinkfoot, thank you for your post. It is important to express to the OP that real help is needed. As I said and others have as well, we all deal with this problem at one point or another in our lives and it can be difficult to deal with, we all know. We thank you for giving us the opportunity to let you know that we do care how you feel and about yourself but this is not the right place to vent your feeling. I understand how important the forums can be for everyone, we are all part of a little family here and we all know or at least think we know each other in our own way. I think family is very important and as one of our family members we appreciate the fact that you let us know that you are suffering. Now is the time to take that next step and seek help. There is nothing wrong with getting the help you need. Some of us need it while others are able to deal with it on their own. This was your way of letting someone know, now let us help. We are not doctors, we are your friends, all be it a forum friend but friends at least in some part. If you want to reach out and talk to us then really talk to us. You wanted to let us know how special the fourms were to you well let us return the favor. Life is not easy if it was then everyone would be doing it. Believe it or not things could always be a lot worse.
This is always the most true fact. I'm sure some here have lives with no current problems to really speak of, but I mean we could change this into people listing all the problems they currently have to show just how equally the bad is spread out to everyone.