Hedonism is wholesome

Just a little insight: I said cardio, not cardio machines. I didn't argue when you brought up treadmills because I tend not to bother. But so far as I can tell, the treadmill feels exactly the same to me.

 

they'll get equal attention. one can sit on my face while the other one rides, then rotate

 

I've been trying to quit black and milds, and I have lost much momentum lately.

I have always felt that hedonism is fine, as long as it's conscious and not obliviously causing others pain.
Lately, I've been smoking almost every day and all the guilt I've built up and all the perspective has been destroyed. Now I am looking at it as something enjoyable, rather than something deadly - and have been limited in it, but, I sure haven't quit either.

I think hedonism is a sorta yin to the yang of responsibility. (Or maybe those yin and yang should be switched...)

 

Hedonism is self delusion.

Life is full of beauty and tragedy. If you try to indulge in pleasure while avoiding the pain entirely it'll rush up on you like a motherfucker, every time.

 

damnit, Sam! don't bring me back to reality

 

That's how i roll bitch. I keep you in reality unless I want to fuck you

 

well thank god you don't want to do that..

 

heh.

 

Oh, I only kid. I think...

 

Too deep for RT.

 

hedonism isn't about avoiding pain entirely, it's about embracing pleasure and joy while MINIMIZING pain. and since pain is a long term effect of abuses, hedonism doesn't really embrace abuse.

 

Eh, you can't grow as a person if you don't learn to move through pain. That's church.

 

I am the king of moving through pain. that wasn't the intended focus of this thread

 

I'm with Albert on this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjVfc8-Y7sQ"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjVfc8-Y7sQ

 

nice! :cheers2:

 

I think I'll listen to that one again :cheers2:

 

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They seek pleasure to avoid pain which is the basis of all existence


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avoiding pain doesn't necessarily lead to pleasure, either. i love this topic. it's so endlessly looping.

 

Pleasure leads to pain, which is followed by desensitization. Zippity doo da zippity day

 

And in order to regain what was lost it inevitably leads to depravity


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