He fucking won!

don't flatter yourself. ignorant bigots with limited mental capacity are not enough to make me angry. You seem to know even less about your own country than you do about the world.

making me angry would take someone I disagree with who can actually string two thoughts together and find the weaknesses in my arguments. People like hippiehillbilly and wackyiraqi.

 

If you say so. I hope you can find your inner peace.

 

right now it's more like inner bubbling joy and relief because the ignorant fools who would rather see us divided have been roundly repudiated by the american people. I doubt i'll ever find inner peace. I like meat too much.

Hope.

 

I'm just going to throw this out there, for what it's worth...

I attended the Los Angeles school system 2nd grade through 12th. Needless to say, the race/cultural diversity was wide.

In my experience with persons of mixed heritage they themselves always seemed to identify more with the non-white aspect of their heritage. ie: If they were a mix of black and white, they'd identify with the black heritage more, if they were black and asian, they identified themselves with their black heritage more, same with hispanic and white - they identified themselves with the hispanic side more. I don't know why this is, but it was what I experienced first hand in talking to them. HOW these conversations even came up, I don't recall as typing this out for you all seems like it would have been quite awkward - but thinking back I don't recolect it that way.

ANYWAY, Obama has also identified himself more it seems with his african-american side than his white. I'm white. Does that offend me? Nope!

So, all this to say I can completely empathize with the camp that is heralding this as a great victory for black people. As one poster said early on in this thread, "today some people looked in the mirror and it brought tears to their eyes" (loosely quoted). I don't see why that's so hard to understand.

Do I see color when I walk down the street? Yes. Do I hate because of that color? No. Do I hate when you shit on me no matter what color you are? Probably.

So, in summation - I don't think that just acknowledging the fact that a black man finally made it into the oval office is going to tear the country apart and divide us all right down the middle.

 

on the contrary, it is helping to heal the wounds of our shared history.

well put!

 

That's because white people in America have no culture.

 

oh, we have a culture, it's just the food isn't as good.

 

Yeah I've noticed the same thing, I find it very interesting. Maybe it's got to do with physical appearance, if you're mixed race, you usually (most cases) look more like the side that isn't white, and so it's easier to identify yourself fitting in with that racial group more.

 

Being white and of German/Irish/French decent, I can honestly say I identify with my German heritage more. Mathematically, it's just more prominent in my genes. I used to poo-poo it when very young and my Dad let me stay up late with him and watch a show on Hitler and WWII. I denied my German heritage for YEARS after that. But then I finally came to grips with it all and am now proud to be XXX amount of German. So, when I'm asked what heritage I am, I say German, and never acknowledge the others. A most interesting comment you make there.

Danke!

 

Bitte, holde Frau.

 

OMG, don't talk German to me! It's sexier than french ya know!

 

Wirklich?

Ich glaube dass die beiden sind "sexy", Französich und Deutsch. Ich bin Liedersinge, wenn du willst ich kann dir einen CD geben.

Hörst du Schubert gern?

 

Ok, just translated via babelfish (yes, I'm of German DECENT, I didn't say I spoke German!!!)

So, I've done the Schubert Dip (You're Unbelievable!!!) Just what are you suggesting????

 

sending you a CD, silly.

I think you are a cool gal, and you live in my favorite state. PM me.

 

WELL SAID!!!

 

Now we go to mid and late Twentieth Century America. In 1955 a Baptist preacher, coming to the aid of one Rosa Parks in Montgomery, Alabama, would plant a seed. The seed began to grow and a following of devoted people, few at first, would nourish the little plant and provide shelter for it against a tumultuous storm. And as both plant and storm grew, the storm would envelope more and more people who, perceiving the beauty of the little plant, would join with the caretakers. The growing number of caretakers would not come from any one group or society. No one group would have the necessary principles to cultivate the little plant. The only characteristic that they all would share in common would be their concern for the little plant. As the severity of the storm grew, so the tenacity of the caretakers would grow and the beauty of the little plant would spred to the caretakers and, in turn, this would attract more and more people and then they, in turn, would join in and become caretakers themselves. On and on throught the coming decades the struggle would persist. Last night on November 4, 2008 in Grant Park in Chicago the storm broke and the plant once small and fragile now stood strong and tall and proudly displayed a beautiful flower to an entire world.

 

music's not as good either

 

Why don't we all take a deep breath and wait and watch President Obama after he takes office.

I think you republican's now hiding your money in the backyard may be pleasantly surprised to see him in operation. He is more of a centrist than a liberal if you examine his voting record. Economically he stands a better chance of digging us out of this mess than McCain.

As a professor of constitutional law he understands the limits of his power, and the responsibility of the post.

 

question
Why is this so emotional for people? Is it that we've finally elected a black president? or is it that george bush isn't going to be ours anymore? Is it that you think he'll bring alot of great things for this country?

like, I did get a bit choked up at his speech, but eh.

 

you are responding to the power of symbols.

all over the world, people wept for joy. black, white, yellow, brown, we all wept.

ideas are important. symbols have power. power to hurt, and power to heal.