having more intelligence

ohh gettin nasty are we?

theres no need for that dave, i really dont think we wanna go there do we?


spewing propaganda? i am sharing personal experience...if that somehow offends you than so be it

this comment is quickly becoming more and more accurate! good for you deranged!!


as smart as you are techie, you have a lot to learn.

 

see told ya dede. :cheers2:

 

For someone who claims to be so smart dave, you really seem to miss the simplest points...

IQ is a measurement of a persons knowledge about the world around them. If they have no interaction with the world outside of themselves, then they have no measurable IQ.

If however, they are capable of participating in an IQ test, then they have the capability to interact with the world around them, and therefore to learn.

To go even further then that, IQ tests are societally based...

Shoes are to feet as gloves are to hands, means nothing to a person who has no concept of what shoes or gloves are... as an example...

 

So, mother theresa? not spiritually intelligent?
And, what about Bob Marley?
Deepak Chopra?
Martin Luther King Jr.?


These people all skew your whole "equal" theory.

they are counter-data.

and you're just getting nasty because despite being better at selling your point, mine is logically stronger, and I'm pretty sure you can see it.

 

Nothing could be further from the truth. The ability to learn from experience varies drastically, and anyone in the education field could point you to extensive research that proves this.

IQ tests are not designed to measure knowledge.

 

This thread is becoming more and more unintelligent.

 

:cheers2:

thats what i wanted.


people's true colors

 

That's not the point.

the point is that people are not all equal, and it's idiotic to claim we are.

and to claim the value of a mentally handicapped persons musings are equal to the genius of pablo picasso is insane.

I don't care that they can't communicate it, what matters is that they do not have the tools to process sufficient sensory, abstract, and higher information to reach the same level.


that'd be like saying sugar an C-4 are equal because they're made from the same stuff, it's crazy

 

Do you have reasoning behind this, or is it just a statement that should be accepted as a universal truth?

 

And why are you now arguing with me that all people arent equal? I agreed with that part already in my first post.

 

no dave, that's the thing, not everything is based on logic, not everything is exact science, not everything can be learned in a text book, not everything is the way YOU believe it to be.

i'm not getting nasty at all, im actually calm and kind of feel bad for your tunnel vision...you need to get out more, start living with your heart instead of by what someone in a book tells you "is" or "isnt"

my theory is based on what i have lived not words from any of those people you have mentioned, all of whom i quite unfamiliar with.

the most ironic part of this, is I am not even close to being a hippie...yet you jumped the gun so quickly to label me because my thoughts dont agree with yours.

 

Because you are arguing semantics, I am telling you WHY they are semantics.

 

Well then you might just be the most intelligent person in this thread yet. :cheers2:

 

You think the difference between me saying that people are not equal, and that people are born with equal opportunity is semantics???

Dave, you are rapidly loosing any right to speak from an intelligent point of view....

 

There seems to be some confusion in this thread due to a mis-comprehension about something.

Intelligence, does not equal knowledge, and knowledge does not equal intelligence.

They are two very separate things.

 

I'm labeling you a hippie because you are espousing a theory similar to "gardner's multiple inteligences" which is CRAP

and always has been crap.

and this "live with your heart" crap, is, also crap.

your heart is a pump. live with your emotions? maybe?

live with your soul and spirituality?

getting closer.

but, honestly?

I live in a brick and mortar universe. I have spiritual beliefs, but they have NO PLACE in arguments because I cannot provide evidence, empirical proof to back them up.

and that anyone else is going to try to play that non-assignable variable game is just bullshit, and, frankly, I STRONGLY have to lean toward calling anything that is in the line of things with "non assignable valuable" as hippie bullshit

if it's not quantifiable, if it's not qualifiable, and it's here, I've just gotta call it hippie bullshit, because that's usually what it is.

"value as a person" that is such an abstract piece of b.s. I don't even know where to begin.

Intellect. Honestly, I almost certainly know more than anyone on this site about more than a few things, but I will also freely admit, that there is stuff others know more about.

that doesn't mean everyone is equal.

there are people smarter than me who can run marathons, and are not socially retarded, they have more value than I do. simple as that.

this philosophy of all are equal is old, and it is headed out. And I feel good about that.

it's a sin to have merit unless you hide it. and that's fucked up.

 

"Smart" I believe is to much of a generic term. People have more Knowledge on what they choose to research and take interest in. Where as, If they are not all that interested in another area they do not retain much of what they learned on it.

Two of the longest jobs I've maintained has been customer home installation based. Hence, I meet and talk to alot of different people with careers, business's and the like. I've done Plenty of electronic's work for P.H. D's, from brain surgeons to doctors. As well as executives. But unless the individual is into knowing about the equipment they bought, I still have to sell or write down a Dumbed down "guide" on how to operate it. Now sure i can go into the house and start instantly operateing all equipment, tweak settings, tear things apart to fix/adjust/repair what not. But in retrospect if I where to go to the customers job, I'd be in the same situation, needing some sort of guide.

I do think some people are innate on picking some things up though, Like how we inherit physical looks, reactions, traits of our parents, ancestors. Its not hard to believe that some things might be more innate. Hence Like "Mechanically Inclined", "Common Sense" traits. I know a person documented being a Mathmatical Genius. I do not doubt it. But Straying on knowledge of other areas then math, he is not as knowledgable.

There is always the ability to learn, if people want to. But tend to look to see what each person is more into, to judge how much they know, rather then just trying to make it a generic thing.

 

That isn't what I said at all.

 

Did you read the rest of my post? I am not in the education field.

 

fuck me... it's a sin??? forget the rapidly loosing comment dave...