hate weed

im sorry to ahve to stoop to this level, but you really are stupid.

Change the word to 'caused' and i dont care caus its not proving your point in any way wahtsoever. saying a 'physically caused pain' isnt language i use, thats why i ddint word it that way. so heres how it would be in your terms:

It doesnt matter what causes the pain. Its the relative magnitude of discomfort percieved by a mind from either a physically caused pain or a psycholoically caused pain. You have shown that this magnitude of discomfort is greater in Psychologically caused pain than with physically caused pain.


Now if one source of pain is more desirable than the other, that means there IS a distinction bewtween them. YOU have only gone to prove MY points that there is a distinguisable feature between them; in order to prove tehre is no difference between physically or mentally induced pain, you would need to show that a patient doesnt distinguish between the two (and would simply perfer the one that effects less of their body). If you were correct, psychological withdrawals would have the same sucess rate and the same sideaffects as physical ones, which they do not.

please sum up your arguement in one post in exactly the way you are taking it, and then tell me that ive misread your arguement.

 

absolutely. Its all about the Indica though.

 

Amazing the twists and turns this discussion has taken. But if you go back to the beginning, this was all about someone "hating" pot and going to a pot forum to do so. Hate is a terribly strong emotion for something that obviously is nothing more than a matter of opinion. Can't we reserve hate for things of real importance? People who have a real problem with pot and feel the need to shove their problems down other people's throats are not a whole lot different than the police, or the lawmakers who come up with such barbaric laws.

There are a tremendious amount of people in this world with mental and emotional troubles of one kind or another. Of course these folks will only make matters worse by using anything that is designed to alter their consiousness. A base of sanity and strength needs to be there before people can handle their drug of choice. Pot causes them problems and so they blame the pot.

It makes about as much sense to hate pot as it makes to hate hangnails.

And it makes as much sense to argue about it as it does to argue about the weather.

I would be a case in point, I suppose. I'm nearly 50. I've smoked since I was 16. I'm no more addicted to it than I am to good food, A good sleep at night, good lovin from my old man, or having money in my pocket. There is a great difference between desire and addiction, yet they can be looked at in the same way just for the sake of the arguement. The bottom line is that pot is no more harmful than any other natural plant and less than some that are definately poison.

All the arguing about it is the thing that helps keep it illegal.

 

Not a fan of Indica, at all.

 

Stonerbill, I am interested and prepared to carry on an argument with you, however, start flaming me, and I'm out of here.

Anyway. No I have not shown that the magnitude of discomfort is greater in pyschologically caused pain than with physically caused pain. I said it can be. However, as I said, this was not my point. I was making the distinction that emotionally caused pain is -pain-, not just 'a feeling that is unpleasant. So understand that that was not my main point.
My main point was that there is no such thing as 'physical pain and emotional pain.' It is all felt in the body. However, the causes of the pain can be divided into those two groups: physical and emotional.

Read up on it
Pain: The Fifth Vital Sign, Marni Jackson--this is an excellent book for understanding what I'm saying. Also just a fascinating read.
Pain: A Personal Experience, J. Blair Pace, M.D.
Why We Hurt: The Natural History of Pain, Frank Vertosick, Jr., M.D.

 

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don't judge people