hate weed

hmm im not sure the direction were going in is keeping relevant to iwthdrawal pain. but you demonstrate why psychological withdrawals have a lower sucess rate compared to physical ones (the emotional pain is worse than a physical pain).

 

sweetie no. I do not demonstrate that in the least. Physical pain and emotional pain are the same. No difference. All pain is felt in the body. Try this: think of any pain you've ever felt that isn't felt in the body. If you get your heart broken a lot of people feel it in the heart, as in in the heart... not a metaphor. yes, we are getting off subject but if everyone stayed on the subject all the time thatd be pretty boring... no one else is complaining anyway

 

yeah but if you gave them anesthetics to teh heart it wouldnt remove the pain, caus that pain is in the mind.


you demonstrated that people would take physical pain over emotional pain. therefor, physical pain is heasier to handle than emotional pain. tehrefor physical withdrawal is easier to overcome than psychological withdrawal.

physical pain can lead to mental pain and vice verse but thyere still different things.

an emotional withdrawal is diferen to a physical withdrawal because of the nature of the physical withdrawal. the mind wants the drug, it doent need it. because it wants the drug, the thought process of not wanting the drug doesnt go through.

i beleive with a true psychological addiction, overcoming it is near impossible, for the very nature of the addiction. thought is in the same place as the addiction, wheras with physical withdrawal, pain is obviously sensed by thought, but thats not the source of the pain.

 

no. There is no such thing as physical and psychological pain. There is only pain. The causes of the pain can be physical and psychological, but that is the extent of the division.
anesthetics can't heal a broken heart (unless you believe they will; ie placebo effect). BUT anesthetics doesn't make all pain from physical causes go away either!!! For example, no anesthetics gets rid of the pain of a migraine. There is no known antidote for a migraine, nor for the pain of the migraine.

 

isnt that because the brains nervous system is different to that of the body and in order to anesthise it you would be harming the brain itself?


Im sorry but you havnt held your arguement up, you made a clear distinction between physical and psychological pain earlier when you spoke of preferring emotional pain over physical pain.

 

I get migraines a lot. Well, not anymore, but I used to get them CONSTANTLY. What I used to do was take nyquill cuz it made me sleep and 90% of the time they were gone after I slept.

Now, wanna know what I do to stop migraines? Smoke weed.

Ever since I started heavily smoking herb I've NEVER had a migraine since.

It was just a self medication thing at first then I found out that it is actually proven to help migraines.

How VERY coincidentally on topic... Marijuana is the only thing known to man, appearently, that seriously helps migraines.

 

oh yeah lol howd i forget about that?


anyway i dont get migraines so i cant have a subjective perspective over them.

 

i didnt read all these replies, but for more info on the positive effects of chewing coca leaves and of opium and how you start getting into trouble when you etract the "pure" forms of drugs (cocaine, heroin...) read Andrew Weil´s "The Natural Mind" and then "The Marriage of the Sun and Moon" (this has more info on coca leaves)

serisously, read these.

 

no. the brain does not feel pain. This is a fact. And migraines are a swelling of blood vessels in the head, not in the brain.
Show me where I made a distinction between physical and psychological pain. What I did say was that pain that is -caused- by something thats going on in the body, like fibromyalgia, is often more desirable when compared with pain that is -caused- by thought, such as depression. The reason I mentioned this was because you said that "emotional pain isn't really pain, it is just a feeling that is unpleasant."

the key word is 'caused.'

 

It doesnt matter what causes it!!! its the magnitude of discomfort from either a physically induced pain or a psycholoically induced pain.


So all your saying is that psychological pain is identical to physical pain, but is greater, relative to the source of the pain? which is then going to assume that these sources are directly comparable?

 

Hence cutters.

But uh, yeah. I think if a fragment of skull ws broken and punctured the brain, and oyu were still concious, it'd hurt the shit out of your brain.

 

I dont really like weed either. But I love nugget and there's nothing wrong with smokin after a long hard day and watchin the tube. I have no trouble getting up the next day and doing a good job at work. I admit while you are stoned you have no depth perception and your motor skills are fucked. But the benefits of smoking, nuggets mind you, are great. Your social awareness goes way up permanently. You learn to read people much better and to interact with people better, while you're not stoned. Plus your artistic/creative IQ skyrockets. You learn much better too as things such as books and class become more interesting and less boring. That is the effect Marijuana has had on me atleast. I love it! Everyone is different though .

 

...You "dont like weed" but like "nuggets"?

"Nuggets" are buds of Marijuana, or "Weed".

Yup.


Anyways, herb doesn't change my depth perception, or hinder my motor skills.

 

I agree with everyhting he said except that it makes class more interesting? thats jsut wierd, it makes things less interesting for most poeple.

But yeah depth perception is affected a bit, but motor skills generally arent, its jsut that its harder to concentrate on waht your doing when your stoned, so you muck up things if your nothing concnetrating enuf.

and i think he was making a distinction between good and bad weed when he talked about weed and nuggets?

 

I think he really thinks they're different things.... hopefully you're right because.. well........ hah.

Anyways, I wouldn't say its' depth perception that's effected, I can still see as deep as before, but it's just.... weird. It's like you're in a CGI 3D environment, ya know, where it's trying so hard to be 3D that you can tell it's fake, know what I mean?

 

depth perception isnt about how deep you can see, its about how far objects seem in relation to eachother. its all about relation.


when your watching a movie with special effects, liek harry potter, the effects are so amazingly lame. that hyppogriff jsut looked like a sprite.

 

I know what it means I just didn't know how to say it right, so I said "Deep" meaning, I can tell how far away something is because I can tell the "depth" and measure it in my mind in relation to my hand (or me, or whatever) and where the thing is at.

 

That's a contradiction. Induced means caused! you just proved my point

no I wasn't saying that at all. re-read my post. I said it can be relatively more desirable. I was demonstrating that it was more than just 'a feeling that is unpleasant;' it's called 'pain.'

 

Nah man (stalkz) when I said nugget I meant heady nugs like 60 bucks an eighth (kush, white widow) opposed to some "shwag" some farmer grew outside at the back of his field. Actually they are both marijuana but two totally different things with two totally different types of effects. shwag=tired,drowsy feeling. I go for the heady stoned feeling-you have the energy to do stuff and enjoy it and everything seems so much more interesting and you have less of a paranoid feeling and all that. It's hard to find good nugget around here so I have to grow my own indoors ofcourse.

 

.....Sativa.


word. So what you're saying is, you're not too enthusiastic about mersh, but chronic = <3..


Word.