Has the Head Mentality ever turned you off to bands?

Yo, I gotcha Rev'...
The family did put a stop to the release of the crappy performance recordings,
but some of the newly authorized live releases, although the performances are excellent, some are of very questionable recording quality.
Murky, poor mixes, etc...it's all interesting to Hendrix effecianato's I suppose.
Didn't really mean to dis' Jimi's kin much...


ZW eace:

 

Yeah I hear ya' There are cats who are just Completists. If Hendrix farted on Mike in between takes on a Doors outtake (I know it doesn't exist) they would have to have it. I hate to burst anybodys bubble but Hendrix was human and sometimes played like shit. I had a guitarist roomate who was a fuckin' asshole and at least once a day I got to hear the acoustic rendition of "Hear my Train a Comin'' (Off Hendrix Blues). There's nothing like hearing Hendrix murder a hackneyed blues on an out of tune 12-string, whith all due respect. There is no way this should ever have been released to the public.
Peace Out,
Rev J

 

^ I have that song, and like it a bit, but definitely would definitely say it's his worst work I've heard.

 

This is mainly to zombiewolf ,

Let me preface this by saying I enjoy Hendrix's music alot more than srv's but I am a guitarist and I think srv was a superior guitarist in terms of technical ability. Like people have said jimi was very inconsistent live, I've never seen an srv performance where the guy was what I would call off. As far as trying to play their songs i have found i can just have a good amp these days and get away with tearing up some Hendrix songs, no amp in the world has saved me in the same way trying to play srv. You can't hide behind distortion, overdrive, and feedback with srv songs like alot of hendrix.

That being said, I think jimi was on a whole different planet as far as composition and innovation is concerned.

 

indeed... i've had that album since i was 14 and i bet i've listened to that track less than a handful of times... i can hear it now... the click of the next button, followed by the first bass notes of 'born under a bad sign' .

 

i would say (as a fellow player of said stringed instrument) that i find srv's style to be somewhat easier than jimi's to replicate. with jimi, not only do you have to be technically proficient (for the most part), but you have to do all that fucking with the tremolo/feedback and all kinds of things. as far as which one is the more emotional/interesting to listen to... it's hendrix all day. but you mentioned that with the composition remark. i donno... this reminds me of the underrated guitarists thread, because srv (even moreso than page and clapton) is hella overrated. it all seems so bland. at least those other two guys i mentioned had good musicians to play with.

 

Well, I won't belabor the point, but imho you are patently wrong in your assessment of SRV's technical ability as compared to Jimi.

SRV was an assembly line soloist armed with only the most cliched Hendrix-type riffs with which he, through shear repetition, gained a consistency not unlike a typist...
...sounds the same everytime.

Sorry man, SRV has been a sore spot for this Hendrix fan ever since he first hit the scene. Only good thing I have to say about him is he was more interesting than his brothers band, the T-birds. lol

ZW eace:

 

you voiced my opinion better than i could myself!

 

Well It appears I'm definitely a minority here as far as srv fans go and like how good i think the guy was. Maybe something wrong with my guitar playing to but I can shred purple haze, fire, a couple others and play little wing pretty well. Ive tried pride and joy by srv and the riff is pretty easy but still his tone is so much bigger it sounds terrible trying to replicate and I can't even touch those solos. Regardless, I find both of their music very moving.

Back to the original topic I guess emo kids kind of turned me off of afi. Afi was one of my favorite bands live when i originally saw them, but the second time i saw them the place was packed full of little 15 year old emo kids, and the band adjusted their image to probably appeal to them.

 

I'm on an iPod touch so I'm having difficulties quoting and such but now you my agitated on a whole new thing zombie

Even if you didn't like srv, you got to give him some credit, he breathed life into the blues In THE 80's!!! An era dominated by pop and hair metal.

 

"Back to the original topic I guess emo kids kind of turned me off of afi. Afi was one of my favorite bands live when i originally saw them, but the second time i saw them the place was packed full of little 15 year old emo kids, and the band adjusted their image to probably appeal to them. " - guerillabedlam

ah man, talkin bout emo kids... i've played a few of these improv kinda sets with a couple friends at this local skate park. see, one of the guys playing is the owner's brother, so he'd let us fuck around if no one else was playing. their music (normally) was the typical whiney self-centred kinda emo shit that the majority of suburbanite skater 'punks' listen to. well, on all four occasions there was a packed house of little 15 year old hipster kids prior to our little set starting. after about 10 minutes of mmw style jams, most of those kids hit the road. the same thing has happened when i've played with another guy... that sound is like mixing 'bitches brew' with old crow... which they apparently don't dig either. but i have played numerous times on the campus of the university of the south (private lib-arts college... lots of nofo-wearin trusties up there) and the reception is much better

 

OK, I'll give ya that... I'll admit I was pretty astonished at the popularity of srv at his peak, quite an accomplishment considering the times."An era dominated by pop and hair metal".

I do harbor a good bit of personal Bias against srv.

He was a good guitarist an' all, I think I was just offended by his audacity in covering Voodoo Chile...To me, a signature Hendrix tune like Voodoo Chile is fucking sacrosanct!
SRV's cover really wasn't all that bad, in fact pretty good, but nowhere close to Jimi's Juju...


Contributing to the original topic, I had a dead-head friend in high-school I use to get weed from and whenever I went to his pad to score, I had to endure hours of listening to bootlegs and lectures on the sublimity of the dead an' all, before he would finally break out the buds....
It was pretty fucking exasperating.
I think he was really hoping to get my band to cover some dead tunes...we didn't. LOL

I don't mind a little dead music, but I was fairly turned off by the "head" mentality...not to mention all those sloppy ass Dead bootlegs...

ZW

 

Alice I have the funniest storie about trendy 15 year olds. Back in the mid '90's when Blues Traveller was still doing the HORDE thing they put one together one year with them, Lenny Kravitz (with Karl Denson on Sax btw) and King Crimson (the Double Trio with Bruford and Pat Masteletto on drums). I was right down front for Crimson singing alond to Indicepline when a trendy 15 year old girl looks at me like I have a booger on my face and says, "You know who these guys are. Who? We're here to see Blues Traveller. Run Around kicks ass." Looking back I find this hilarious.
Peace Out,
Rev J

 

look!

 

i know the situation... i caught phish in knoxville this past summer. okay... so they had just launched into 'reba' (barely to the 'bag it tag it' part)... and this mass of scenester kids, who couldn't be a day over 16, turn to me and my friend, and ask ''what the fuck is this shit?! i don't wanna hear fuckin' stupid silly songs! fuck! i'm leavin!''. so, mockingly of course, i went along with them, and recommended they should ask the ticket office for a refund. i found it to be most comical

 

As long as I can have an excellent time next to the grim and frostbitten corpspainted fans next to me at a black metal concert I don't think I have this problem (although I personally think corpsepaint and iron spikes are better to wear just on stage)

 

It's kind of like what Gene Simmons said about Grunge in the mid '90's. "At least I'm honest about the costume I wear."
Peace Out,
Rev J

 

King Diamond does not agree.

 

It may be a Texas thing....

Since Stevie was a devotee of Albert King, as was Jimi, I thought that stevie was perfect for doing Voodoo Chile or any other hendrix - seeing him perform it live was way more electric than the studio versions or even vid footage of it. There was a vibe that stevie put out when he played Jimi tunes that the audience could feel. Stevie remains the only guitar player to give me the shivers when I saw them in person.

Seeing vids or hearing recordings did not prepare me in the least for seeing SRV live. IDK if you saw him perform, or if so if he was sober or not, but I caught him late on tour with Jeff Beck and he was blown away. Even being familiar with his stuff, I could not believe his riffs. He made jeff beck look like a bar band, and that aint easy lol

God knows every sitty player who picks up a guitar records a cover of a hendrix tune, only Stevie Ray managed to play them the way they were intended imho.

My fave stevie-hendrix cover is 3rd Stone... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dSR0Cq228k"]YouTube- Stevie Ray Vaughan - Third Stone from the Sun





as for deadheads, zepheads, etc....... I plead the fifth!! lol

 

wow, what a bunch of ignorant dumbasses