Has Boris 'stuffed up' yet again ???

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  1. Vladimir Illich

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    Seems the relaxation of restrictions announced by Boris, is not universally popular and could result in a second spike of corona virus.


    Boris Johnson's lockdown plans will cause coronavirus to return early, former WHO chief warns


    Boris Johnson's plans to lift the coronavirus lockdown "will not ensure the suppression of the epidemic", a former director at the World Health Organisation (WHO) has warned.

    Professor Anthony Costello, a member of the independent Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) committee, accused the government of repeating its early mistakes in dealing with the virus.

    The independent SAGE was set up to rival the government's official SAGE committee and is made up of a group of scientists who have been highly critical of the government's response to the crisis.

    In a stark warning, Prof Costello warned the prime minister's plans would lead to the Covid-19 epidemic returning early to the UK, increase the number of cases and mean further preventable deaths.

    In a series of social media posts on Monday, Prof Costello revealed that an independent SAGE report presented to the government on Tuesday would argue that the prime minister's lockdown-easing plans are "misguided and over-centralised".

    "The WHO ask that 'governments refocus the whole of government on suppression and containing Covid-19'," he tweeted.

    "There is no refocus or commitment except to manage the spread. This is 'herd immunity' and 'take it on the chin'."

    Prof Costello – who was director of maternal, newborn, child and adolescent health at the WHO – said the report had found that the government's "find, test and trace" programme is not yet sufficient to control the virus.

    "In short, the government plans will lead to the epidemic returning early, cases rising, further preventable deaths, and no guarantee that herd immunity will ever occur," he added.

    "This is compounding the disastrous policy of March 12."

    Prof Costello has previously been highly critical of the government's response to coronavirus, writing in The Guardian last month that the UK government was ignoring WHO advice on dealing with the outbreak.

    "The basic principles of public health, and the daily mantra of the WHO – to find the virus, test, trace and isolate, to promote social distancing, and to do it all at speed – appear to have been effectively disregarded," he said.

    The UK's death toll passed 40,000 on Tuesday, following new figures on care home deaths released by the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

    It comes as the WHO condemned the "dangerous" concept of herd immunity on Tuesday.

    Herd immunity is an epidemiological term usually reserved to describe how the population as a whole is protected from a disease depending on the levels of people vaccinated.

    Dr Mike Ryan, executive director of the WHO's health emergencies programme, told a press briefing in Geneva: "Humans are not herds, and, as such, the concept of herd immunity is generally reserved for calculating how many people will need to be vaccinated and the population in order to generate that effect.

    "This is a serious disease, this is public enemy number one, we have been saying it over and over and over and over again."

    He said "no one is safe until everyone is safe", adding: "So I do think this idea that 'maybe countries who had lax measures and haven't done anything will all of a sudden magically reach some herd immunity, and so what if we lose a few old people along the way?'

    "This is a really dangerous, dangerous calculation."
     
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  2. Vanilla Gorilla

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    You didn't look after the young and unemployed enough for anyone to care (££££££)
     
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  4. Vladimir Illich

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    Ahhh so the ex-lax has worked !!! - still talking sh*t !!!
     
  5. Driftrue

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    What do YOU think we should do, Vlad?
     
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  6. wilsjane

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    Everyone could stay at home. No hospitals, food or shops to sell it. No gas, electricity or water, phone network, television or internet and sewage running along the sides of the streets.
    PS, When all his hot air finally set the OP's house on fire, no fire department to put it out. :yum::yum:
    PPS, No government department to send him his pension, so that he can sit online all day calling them scumbags....... Not such a bad ides. :yum::yum::yum::yum:
     
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  7. wilsjane

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    I have asked him that question several times. As yet, not a single constructive answer.
     
  8. Vladimir Illich

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    There were a number of things that should have been done from day 1 - firstly universal testing of everyone arriving from abroad, whether at ports or airports, secondly universal testing of everyone already here who display symptoms of infection, Quarantining of everyone infected. The Government should have been on top of this (they had a report on this very issue last year and totally ignored all the recommendations contained in that report). Thirdly co-operating with the other EU countries to ensure an adequate supply of PPE gowns, and masks to protect, firstly all public service employees in the front-line.
     
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    You weren't asked what should have been done you were asked what do you think should be done. Just saying. I mean English isn't my first language but I don't mind helping people out. :)
     
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  10. Vladimir Illich

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    That hinges on the starting point, and as I have consistently pointed out these past two months, the scumbag blond mop-head and his 'nasty party' cohorts have 'stuffed up' big time !!!
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So 65 million tests on the first day then?
     
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  12. Vladimir Illich

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    I hardly think that is possible - but yes as many as can be accomplished right from the start - as Korea managed to do.
     
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    Sth Korea and Japan were dealing with the less deadlier original Wuhan strain before they closed their borders so it's a bit misleading to say they did so well just because of contract tracing

    New York and Europe were dealing with the mutated deadlier strains, of which, if they don't disappear, Sth Korea, China, Japan etc will have to deal with anyway or keep their borders closed forever

    Coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 strains
     
  14. Vladimir Illich

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    I see you're attempting to change it yet again - its irrelevant what strain it is - Sth Korea managed to (a) lock-down far earlier and (b) test as many people as possible so that they knew who is/was infected and those that aren't/weren't.
     
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    Of course it's totally relevant, it just doesn't fit in to your little agenda
     
  16. Vladimir Illich

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    So how come Sth Korea managed to limit the spread of the Covid - 19 virus amongst their population and the uk didn't ??? - is this because, as I indicated, that blond khazi mop-head has 'stuffed up' big time ???
     
  17. Driftrue

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    I think if Keir Stamer.. or Corbyn.. or anyone else was in power... they'd have made just as many mistakes.
    It's easy to sit and criticise..
    but it's also pointless, unless you have ideas on how to correct the mistakes. Not just what you would have done back then.. which brings another cliche to my mind about the benefit of hindsight...
     
  18. Vladimir Illich

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    Not necessarily hindsight, I've been criticising this scumbag blond khazi mop-head over his strategy for tackling covid - 19 from the outset !!!
     

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