has any of you ppl ever traveled any wear.

You know what Jeffrey? I am totally respect your opinions and such. On one hand you are absolutely right about grammar, spelling, etc. on the other hand though, this is the internet and who really gives a rats ass if someone spells, uses grammar etc. correctly other than you? It's not like we are writing a graded essay, or are out to be oh-so perfect as you. If you do not like the way people write, then leave and do not let the door hit you in your ass on the way out. I do not believe anyone would really miss you here.

Fortunate as it is, you have somewhere else to go, e.g, your gun forum, somewhere where the posters write the "correct" way. (at least in your eyes)

 

This thread can now officially be called "Opinions on the 'Correct' Use of Grammar in Online Forums".

Although it sounds like fun, I am not going to bag on Jeffery here as so many have done. I have to admit, when I saw the initially post, I laughed, but come on now. Is is it really that big of a deal?

Besides who is the abitrator of so-called "correct" grammar anyway? Strunk and White, your seventh-grade grammar book, MLA? Who are these people to say what is correct? Language is not quantum physics. It is fluid and flexible. Part of what makes the English language so strong is its ability to vary and adapt to local environs. If we went about preserving "correct grammar" and stuck to a strict English vocabulary, we'd all still be speaking in Old English with a grand total of 400 words.

Of course it is good to have a some type of standard for the language so we can communicate with each other, but it is important to keep it flexible and fun.

 

Blah blah blah..... I believe you made the same promise to cool off and stop being such a raging dickhead, but you attacked somebody because they may not be as smart as you. I attacked you because well......... I love to make assholes like you realize that there are bigger, smarter assholes out there. Ever wonder why my "punk ass" is able to get under your skin time after time? I think it's because I spell just about everything correctly, I've got decent grammar, and I'm still a smart ass little punk that's got a whole future brighter than anything you'll ever dream of accomplishing in your angry, pathetic, 35 yr old existance......... And even with all of that in front of me, I can still say really cool things like, "Go fuck yourself biznitch"

 

I live in Canada and I've been to Mexico and the Dominican Republic.

 

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haha im slow

 

Been to Alaska, Hawaii, California, Washington(State), Nebraska, Missouri, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Indiana(the Garden Spot of the Universe), Ontario, Scotland, Ireland and France. This year will see NYC, The Bahamas, Spain, Italy, Greece and maybe Panama.

 

I have been to Hawaii 2 times, when I was younger.

 

Shroom wrote, "are you jeffrey's sidekick"

Then,

But what Shroom actually wrote was a statement, since there was no question mark to indicate she was asking if madcrappie was my sidekick. It was like when someone comes in from a rainstorm and says, "Boy is it raining." They're not actually asking. They're stating.


It was not lost on me that several people mispelled "grammar." That's what the fuck I've been talking ("bitching") about! One person, measa420, actually was talking about having poems published, as though that was enough to put him above grammatical reproach. But his post was replete with all kinds of grammatical and spelling fuckups. It sure makes me wonder just how good his poetry might be.

Sure, people love to say that poetry doesn't have to be "correctly written" because it's poetry. But you don't see Edgar Allen Poe mispelling stuff in "The Raven" and then defending it by saying, "wahhh, it's poetry, why are you bugging me about how I spelled stuff?!"

What it comes down to is, if you want to appear intelligent, and you don't want people to just disregard what you say as the rantings of an idiot, spelling counts. If some of the posters here wrote letters to the editor of any newspaper, the editors would laugh at them and would never publish their letters. Why? Because they don't care to publish ramblings of nearly illiterate people, when there are others who are articulate and can spell and write coherently. So, if any of you (you know who you are) who write like you couldn't be fuckin' bothered to do it correctly want to claim, "Oh, well, if I were writing to the newspaper, I'd turn on the grammer and spelling for that," I ask you, why the fuck not do it here? Is it so hard? Is your audience here just not worth bothering to write clearly and correctly?

-Jeffrey

 

what the hell is your point..
You really and I mean really need to get a life Jeffrey, I mean I have never seen someone so viciously anal about spelling and such..

 

It is a mistake to think that just because language is "fluid and flexible," that we do not have, at any given time, a "right" and a "wrong" way to express things. Fluidity and flexibility are factors in the long-term characteristics of a language, like the way what we speak now arose from "olde English" and such. That does not mean that there is no "correct" speech or writing.

Those references you mentioned exist so that there can be an agreed-upon standardization! That is necessary, having a baseline of correctness in language is necessary, because without it you'd end up with dozens or hundreds of dialects that each grow further and further apart from each other. I know a woman at work who is from Madrid. She told me just the other night that even within a country as small as Spain, there are at least four different regions where the people speak such isolated dialects that she, who can speak four different languages fluently (English, Spanish, French, Italian), cannot understand people in these other cities in Spain. And look at China, which has so many different languages, and people speaking one kind of Chinese cannot understand those speaking another. But with English, which has maintained a degree of standardization, even a speaker of American English can understand and communicate with a Scotsman or an Irishman, or an Englishman, or even an Aussie.

The MLA guide, and the O.E.D. and such are not making some sort of greedy power-grab for control of the language. They are simply forming a baseline for the language so that it can remain somewhat centered on agreed-upon rules of construction so that the language does not degenerate into meaninglessness. It's not about one group deciding to seize control of the language and make the rules, it's about seeing the need to keep some sort of recognizable order in the language.

English is not the only language like that. I have learned, from my Spanish-speaking coworkers, that it is easy for South American speakers of Spanish to pick out whether someone is from Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Nicaragua... because the "Spanish" they all speak has such differences. So the lady I was talking to used a word in HER Spanish (which is "Castilian," or kinda like "the King's Spanish") to Guatemalan guy and he didn't know what it meant! That is not a preferable state of affairs.

Spanish has "Castilian," which is the "official" Spanish. And the French government has a bureau that is dedicated strictly to keeping the French language regulated so that it does not degenerate. Yes, that means keeping reference books that hold the proper way to say and spell things.

So I'm not sitting here demanding anything unreasonable when I ask for some degree of unity in the way we express ourselves in written language.

Come on. Wrong. There is nothing about adding words to the language as they come to be needed that does not comport with making sure that everyone across the spectrum of English-speakers knows what they mean, how to spell them, and how to use them. You have introduced a fallacy. It is one thing to try to stop any new words from entering a language. It is another to allow the words that are already in a language to be used improperly, and to keep no conventions about using them.

-Jeffrey

 

:X he might be a frustrated ESL teacher!!

met a few of them before I have and it sounds much the same as this...their visa runs out and they are left in an English speaking country becoming increasingly frustrated by the lack of opportunity to appear god like and correct others speaking until they explode and launch themselves on some unsuspecting forum peeps...

 

Your use of, "Go fuck yourself biznitch" is about as "cool" as when kids in the '80s went around wearing "Michael Jackson jackets" and wore a single glove on one hand. You're just emulating Snoop Doggy Dog and thinking that talking like him, who you think is cool, makes you cool like you think he is. Wronnnng. You just come off looking pathetic and unoriginal.

You're right about one thing: I do wonder how you manage to be able to write with decent spelling and grammar, and still have your head so backward about just about everything else. You with your "acting 'hard'" and talking about "busting hollow points" and shit. We can see you're just blowing smoke because on one hand you talk tough about hollow points and then you start a thread exposing that you know next to nothing about guns. i.e. you're a poseur.

You don't get under my skin, chaos. You just amuse me.

-Jeffrey

 

Yeah, I might not be playing it up because I see how it gets you and the rest hoppin'...

-Jeffrey

 

whatever, dont lie.. You're just an anal angry person..The Nazis could have really used you...

 

damn it jeffrey i made you​

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your own speak an spell​

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thread so go use​

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Actually, Measa's poetry is actually really good. Don't judge someone's writing ability because they don't care about grammar on here. These are not graded assignments. No one cares except you.

 

no, there is a BIG difference. at least he can make a thought out argument. you and some other people, on the other hand, do not make any sense. there is more to an argument than just calling another person an "ugly bitch" or a "faggot" or whatnot. he contributes alot more than you, and has more of a......... point to his arguments. you all may not agree with most of what he has got to say, but at least he has some good points. and he can articulate his point. other than you and some other people who just reply to a thread saying "you must die" or "you ugly bitch". boy that takes some really thought out arguments.

 

it sucks

 

Jeffrey called me a bitch-**** and has called me names many times (and yes I retaliate and call him names back) ...and he basically harrasses people..
He doesnt have good points, he's doing it out of peer assholeness. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it...

 

i don't recall any positive coments jeffrey has made...maybe he has issues..