hare krishna

Hare Krishna !
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From Jedi
JAI SRI KRISHNA!

The inner consicous entity, the one who dwells in the ocean of milk , SRI HARI! KI JAI!
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Thank you, Jedi.
Jai Sri Hari !, Jai Sri Krishna !, Jai Sri Radhe !


Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

With love,

Kumar.

 

Haribol!


Dear Kumar - thank you so much for the letter by Krishnaprem It is indeed a most enlightening read. I have saved it, and will re-read it later.
I would just like to say that recently, a new book has come out, published by the Society for Evolutionary Research (Paris) 'Sri Aurobindo to Dilip' - a collection of letters on yoga etc. I'm not sure if it can be ordered online, but I will find out.

Hare Kishna!

 

I would like to share this with all of you - it is from'The Sunlit Path' - a collection of answers and conversations of Sweet Mother of Pondicherry, the yogic partner of Sri Aurobindo. I repeat Kumar's advice from his earlier post - please take time to read this carefully


Rely On The Divine Alone.

There is one thing you must learn, never to rely on anyone or anything whatever except the Divine. For if you lean upon anyone for support, that support will break, you may be sure of that. From the minute you start doing yoga (I always speak to those who do yoga,I do not speak about ordinary life), for those who do yoga to depend upon someone else is like wanting to transform that person into a representative of the Divine force; now you may be sure there is not one in a hundred million who can carry the weight; he will break immediately. So never take the attitude of hoping for support, help, comfort from anyone except the Divine. That is absolute; I have never, not once, met anyone who tried to cling to something to find a support there (someone doing yoga or who has been put in touch with yoga) and who was not decieved - it breaks, it stops, one looses one's support. Then one says ' life is difficult' - it is not difficult but one must know what one is doing. Never seek support elsewhere than in the Divine. Never seek satisfaction elsewhere than in the Divine. Never seek the satisfaction of your needs in anyone else except the Divine - never, for anything at all. All your needs can be satisfied only by the Divine. All your weaknesses can be bourne and healed only by the Divine. He alone is capable of giving you what you need in everything, always, and if you try to find any satisfaction or support or help or joy or.......Heaven knows what, in anyone else, you will always fall on your nose one day, and that always hurts, sometimes even hurts very much.

Om Shanti!

 

OH thanks! It's partly an answer to ganja smoking. Krishna will give u everything, but maya will give u pain from loosing the maya. What a wise advice. This Krishna consciousness is so well, becuz simply by chanting and loving Krishna, the Supreme God, all your desires can be fulfilled. U don't need anything else. Everything is due to destruction, even your knowledge. If u attain a certain stage of knowledge, in the nest life u start from beginning. It's all temporal. Try to engage yourself in service to Krishna, cuz in that way you r naturally thinking of Him. haribol!

 

Dear gdkumar and blackbillblake...

Thank you so much for those wonderful posts. I really liked them and I def will read them again at a later date...because it seams sometimes I understand different things about books and literature after I read it a second time.

Thank you so much again! Hare Krishna!

 

Thanks for all your wonderful energy and thoughts. (Please forgive my spelling errors)



I agree with chief that as long as it doesn't hurt anyone including yourself it is ok... And in my case it doesn't actually I would say it's good for me when it comes along.

And also I respect those that disagree with my sadhana, and wish you peace, love, happiness and endless laughter. Let our disagreements be music of Krishna's flute.

And believe me, I searched my heart of hearts for the answer to these questions, and recieved one, maybe not the socially, be a good yogi and eat your green beans answer, but I follow my heart. Also through many synchronistic blessings that I took as the universe as saying, you are doing the right thing.


See it's not toking or not toking, it is your mind being attached to it or not. The mind's attachment...

And same goes with sex


For example with sex, many of you may be aware of the story of Shiva's lingam. Shiva is this great renunciate,the king of yogis, with divine madness and wisdom. He sits on the mountains, leaving the world, lost in the ecstasy of his inner heart... Then he comes out of his meditation and wanting to play a cosmic joke on some horney celibates, prances around naked, seducing all the woman folk with his divine personality and heavenly beauty, and they end up cheating on thier husbands. Thier husbands were celibate, and gave up sex, yet in thier minds they were very attached to thier wives in a sexual way. And instead of being happy that a great god like Shiva (who is also krishna by the way) made sweet love to thier wife in such a beautiful healing way, they got upset and went after Shiva, who said if they were so angry at his linga (his penis) he would rip it off, which he did... The world slipped into darkness because the sacred balance was lost, and all the husbands went to Brahma (who is also krishna) and he explained that to be really spiritual, it matters not whether they have sex or not with thier wives, it's where thier head is it. Do they do it with detachment, because celibacy when your a horny jealous guy (or girl) is not gonna help anyone. And as a ritualistic understanding of that, the worship of Shiva's lingam was started.

So, it's where your head is at, and how far you push inside your heart of hearts, opening and expanding it to the ends of the universe.

(Note: I have nothing against eat your green beans and clean your plate spiritual discipline, We must not forget that everything is not so black and white when it comes to the "rules" of the spiritual path with certain things mind you)

To be honest, I see sex, and toking, and all that I do, as an act of love for the divine.

Like krishna said, do what you do but dedicate it to me!

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare


And friends, I must say, that I won't be on these forums as much, because I am very involved with school right now (and my sadhana of course, but that everything I do, let me not forget... hehehe ), and don't have the internet as close as it used to be So I must focus on other things. Please know though, that all of you are in my heart, and the true teachings come from deep within your soul.

 

Bhagavadgita is like that. U can rad it for eternity and still find new things in it. Bhagavadgita and Krishna are the same.

 

hehehehehe....I know you were being serious but something about this phrase just makes me laugh....

Thanks for that...even though you probably weren't intending to be funny...

Haribol!

 

Hey Ganja Prince. I see myself in you. Í agree with all of that and yet I disagree, cuz what is my agreement than three modes of material nature playing with me? haha.

The thing is, I'm not a renuncient, I try to be out of sex, but it's the hardest thing in the world! haha. For last two years, I was trying to figure out how to stop masturbating. Never mind the rules, or anything. I just wanted to see if it's possible. I wanted to experience it before I say it's wrong. U know? I was taking drugs too, but I find to cut your sex life way more harder to do. But I must tell you, there's one thing, which people tend to overlook. Sex is not necessity and it certainly is not fulfilling! Yeah, it's not. It won't satisfy you. The satisfaction is temporal. I'm saying this as a weak guy, who's just too horny Don't treat me as a preacher, who say do this otherwise hell is your future . Sex is like itching, when you scratch it becomes even more unbearable. While I was trying to stop(still trying) I was capable to restrain myself from masturbation for a month, not longer and after that I caved in. But the weird thing is I'm not able to return to restraining right away. I masturbate a day after and day after and day after -it's impossible to get back to restraining right away. That's why I see that sex is like an addiction. And what is addictive can't be a path to freedom, cuz that's what we r looking for. Another thing I've noticed that after I cave in(please have a good laugh while I'm describing this), I'm more nervous and there's this little anger within me all day long. It's very subtle, but it's there and now I can see it. I'm not in a very high stage of Krishna consciousness, but I believe I understand it a little bit from a theorethical point of view. Srila Prabhupada says that love for Krishna is not cutting out your natural desires, but engage them in loving service to Krishna. He's a person, that's why it's so easy to love Him and also to satisfy all these desires naturaly. Not by cutting them, but using them in their natural way -service to Krishna. I'm sorry to use this example, but I know u'll understand: When I used to hit acid, the experience was so strong that sex seemed funny to me. In my opinion Krishna consciousness brings the same thing. It's not like torturing oneself, killing the desire, no. It's more like Krishna is so beautiful and loving that sex would be a way back from ecstasy. Yes, Srila Prabhupada says it's an ecstasy! If u don't feel this ecstasy you're not in there yet. I can see how my enviroment influence me and there r all these sex-related things everywhere. Girls walking in sexy clothes, sex on tv, stimulants everywhere. I know that people r affected by this a lot. Whethere its'boys or girls. I don't see anything spiritual about this sexuality. U can feel it's in synchronicity with the universe, but how can u know?
Many times when I used to be taking drugs I found myself in a position of a man who sees what others don't. And in that position it was impossible to explain others what drugs bring. When u don't experience it, u can't really tak about it. Now, I'm in the same position, convincing people to take up Krishna consciousness and I'm bumping into the same thing. How can u know if u haven't tried it? How can u know that mahamantra is a nonsense, if u never tried it? Haha, but people r illusioned. That's maya. they think they're right about it without trying it.
U mentioned a verse from Bhagavadgita. Whatever u do, do it for Me -that's what Krishna says. But in Prabhupada's purports u may read that this verse can be also easily exploited. Of course when u chant mahamantra and think of Krishna, eventho u cannot serve Him directly, it's ok and u r very wise. I remember chanting even when I was drunk! Guilt can be also maya. I knew that there's the only thing, which could help me and now I haven't touched alcohol for a long time, so u're definetely right in this way


There's a difference between Krishna and jivas. Brahma and Shiva r qualitatively Krishna, but not in quantity. They're like us. You r Krishna, I am Krishna, everyone's Krishna, but only in quality. Our hearts contain a part of Krishna, but we're not Him, my friend. Neither Brahma or Shiva r Him. Be careful, cuz this is tricky. They got special powers but the highest personality is Krishna. Even Brahma dies!
Gdkumar mentioned before that we shouldn't imitate demigods, or Krishna. U may find a chapter in Srimad Bhagavatam about Krishna seducing gopi girls, married women. But that's not for us to imitate. If u want to imitate, then u should imitate everything. When Shiva is having sex with married women, u should drink a lake of poison like he did. Anyhow, I think rules r important. there r lots of rules that were made just to control people, I know. Just take the parliaments in the world, they're passing bills every single day!!! And why? Just so people can cheat more. Rules r given by Vedas. When Krishna, the guy who made all this and controls everything tells you something, I'd listen to Him being at your place If He knows present, past and future why shouldn't we take advice from Him? U may argue that the scriptures were adjusted by people, but man like Srila Prabhupada, u cannot find any flaw in his life. He knew what to do, he could explain this philosophy on a scientific base, he was always refering to scriptures and he made it. U must believe it, that's true, but there's so much evidence that parampara(succesion of spiritual teachers, which was started by Krishna Himself) was respected when he cam into this world.

Even if u do stuff, remember Krishna and u r free.
I wish u a good laugh, it heals thanks for your nice contributions. U r very nice guy, I can see it by your writing.
haribol!

 

Dear Sleeping Jiva,

I was very moved by your last post to Ganja Prince. I admire your honesty and your willingness to share with others in a public forum your private affairs, and your struggles. I know you are a person with many good qualities - one destined to see the Truth in the near future. Good bless you!
I'd like to make one or two observations here - firstly, let me say that at present I have been out of sexual relations for a number of years, and what you say is absolutely right - you don't need it to survive or to bring true and lasting bliss or happiness. Now - that said, it is easy for me , thanks to the grace of God and Divine Mother, and the fact that I am not so young anymore, and the sexual impulse naturally diminishes with age. (but look at the wasted effort some people to-day expend in trying to extend their virility and sex lives into old-age - not an edifying spectacle, in my view!) And even after several years, I can't say absolutely that if I met a potential partner with the right qualifications, I would't enter into a sexual relationship - but I doubt very much I would - it would be mainly for other than purely sexual considerations anyway.
I t can be very dangerous to make a battle ground of sex - or to seek artificially to repress it. As dangerous as over indulgence? Probably not, but it carries a whole set of risks - there may be desire in the heart which is held in check only at the cost of a kind of self immolation, imbalances and conflicts can arise and so on. There is even a danger that if one tries to push too far too fast, there will be a major downfalling.
The thing is that if one can't give it up, to seek a proper married relationship. You may masturbate in order to release tension and accumulated semen, that is probably harmless enough, ( with the proviso that it's not taken to excess)but try to offer even this to God. Work for a gradual purification, go on trying to develop your growing love for Krishna, your spiritual consciousness, then when the time is ripe, these unwanted desires will fall away.
Look on sex though just as sex - that, imho, is where Prince is in error (even if he is in some bliss) it is hardly a path to know God or Love Him. Human love, ie love of one human being for another has it's very great function, but it is not to be confused with Divine love, love of Godhead. That is something on an altogether higher plane. God's love for us is un-conditional. I have never yet encountered anyone in a sexual relationship with unconditional love for their partner - its all conditional and conditioned! Desire. And that is not the same as aspiration for God. The love of a mother for her child is the closest we humans get to unconditional love here.
I'm not criticizing Prince as a being - I know he is a sincere and loving person, you can tell from his posts! But as one who spent some time pursuing similar sets of ideas in the past, only to have to reject them later, I am only seeking to share my own experience, limited as that may be.

Hare Krishna!

Haribol!

 

Oh thanks, blackbillblake It is the age of hypocrisy, so we gotta be honest otherwise confusion will come. I dared to do it, cuz now I see that more people r ready to fight for Krishna. Moreover, it's all funny and I'm just laughing about my body, how I look, or whatever and I feel free when I laugh about myself. When u think u got it all and u think you're all perfect, you r in a deep ignorance.Like u said, it's all conditional. When a man reaches orgasm, he can't do it anymore. He thinks: Enough. This is the end. But devotional service has no end and no beginning. Even if u chant few times in this lifetime, it can save u and u'll be carrying on in the next one. Everything related to Krishna is like that -it's transcendental. Krishna's power is so vast that just by chanting His names ur life changes and you're more lucky, more happy, what to speak of Krishna Himself. So all those things: prasada, Deities, Bhagavadgita, and all other books, even discussing Krishna on this thread is non-different from Krishna Himself. If u want to know Krishna these will help you. haribol!

 

I was intending to be funny


And to sleeping Jiva, thanks for sharing your struggles, remember though, that all our struggles are not some serious battle, oh my god, I have to defeat some demons instead, like my teacher Ram Dass says your neurotic stuff is like little fuzz balls that come for tea, just see them, offer them some tea and some compassion, and they will do what they are meant to...

It's is all krishna's lila, a cosmic joke! The divine comedy

I still stand by what my deep inner heart has told me, sex and sexuality is a beautiful thing, it can be an expression of divine love, whether with another person or through self masterbation, and the danger in it, is being attached, letting it rule your life, using it for dark purposes and other such things! That's what the spiritual teachings are saying, don't get caught in it...


THe really funny thing, is that none of us are caught in anything, we just have to realize it.

Hare krishna!

 

I very much agree with you. Well said.

I really can't relate with you, sleeping jiva, or you, gangaprince, about your experiences...I've never had sex or drugs and have only had a sip here or there of alcohol (and may I just say I don't understand why so many people adore it...everything I've ever tried from my dad is absolutely disgusting...maybe its an aquired taste...I'll just say I don't think I'll be a drinker anytime soon )...but despite my inexperience (or maybe the fact that I'm just sheltered ::shrug: I understand what you are both saying...so thanks for sharing...

And GangaPrince...glad to know you were being funny.....I'm glad it just wasn't something that amused my demented sense of humour...hehehe

Hare Krishna!

 

Hare Krishna !


Today, 6th. September, is Janmashtami. Today baby Gopal came to us.

It was so nice to read Jiva,BBB, GanjaPrince and SGBeauty. Thank you.

The old adage says, 'As you sow, so you reap.' As you desire so you get.

If we want Him and Him alone and start remembering Him at all times through the process of Chanting, Dhyana, seva, etc. We get Him only. When sincere chanting starts the wind of Grace starts blowing and the 'Fall' sets in our spiritual-body-tree . All the leaves of all desires start slowly drying up and one after another they all leave the body-tree. The leaves die but not the body. The body lives on taking the bare minimum for survival. If the chanting stops, mind goes to another subject of thoughts, the season changes for the body and all new tender leaves of desires show up again. So, we need to keep remembering and loving Him alone at all times.

Fire of any kind can not be extinguished by putting oil into it, we need to cool it down by some means and need to separate the medium and oxygen(Required for the fire). Spiritually, the fire of desire of any type can only be extinguished by chanting His name. We do not understand how it works because it works very slowly. But suddenly one day you find how much you have changed. There is no alternative - habit and only habit to attain Vairagya(Renunciation in the mind) is the solution. Habit of chanting to bring the wind of Grace and Fall. Just a few start chanting with love for Him in his heart, but if it is continued sincerely as a habit with the intention of attainig Him, love slowly and surely starts pouring in. Jagai & Madhai asked Mahaprabhu, "We are sinners, we do not have any love, how can we chant His name ?" Lord Chaitanya said,"How many do it with love! you start, with His name love will automatically come."

With the age impotence comes but the desire does not go, where do we go and what do we do then? Acid, poison become stronger and stronger in dose and type but fail to take effect, where do we then go? Be dependent on one thing to another! Life is so short! We know the great singer of Bengali devotional songs who eventually went on to taking snake bite on his tongue!
We can depend surely on one thing only and that is Him, His name(Thanks to BBB's post). This addiction never decays and nothing can be more than this. Even a simple flash of His light makes you so happy, even a momentary samadhi gives you the bliss(Ecstasy!) that a thousand perfect conjugal orgasms can not give you.


As Sri Krishnaprem said that "He is the concrete of all concretes", I do not have any doubt 'now' that it is really so. Sri Krishnaprem said His feet are more real than ours, it must be. I remember in 1981, my Gurudev, after initiating me, said, "Touch the legs and feet of Lord Krishna (On the altar this deity of naughty Krishna, after driving people crazy, came to my Gurudev's ashram and finally quietened down, that is another story.), it is as real and soft as yours." I did touch and unfortunately that day I did not feel and realize the truth. Today I have just come to know, feel and understand that it is He alone who is surrounding me.

He shall take care of anybody who sincerely loves Him. He is the most compassionate and He promised to us that " My devotee never perishes." Paths followed may be different, shorter or longer - straight or zigzag - smooth or full of hindrances, eventually will take one to Him.

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

With love,

Kumar.

 

Hare Krishna !

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I would just like to say that recently, a new book has come out, published by the Society for Evolutionary Research (Paris) 'Sri Aurobindo to Dilip' - a collection of letters on yoga etc. I'm not sure if it can be ordered online, but I will find out.
Hare Kishna! .........................BlackBillBlake.
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Dear BlackBillBlake,

Thank you for your kind post.

That should be a good book. There are other ones(Given below) which combine all three great Yogis(Rishi Aurobindo, Yogi Krishnaprem and Dadaji). Sri Aurobindo wrote more than thousand letters to Dadaji. You can also look for the following books:

1. Pilgrims of the stars by Sri Dilip Kumar Roy and Ma Indira Devi.
2. Yogi Krishnaprem by Sri Dilip Kumar Roy.
3. Sri Aurobindo came to me by Sri Dilip Kumar Roy.
4. Among the Great by Sri Dilip Kumar Roy.

If you can not find them I promise to send them to you when I am back in Kolkata after about seven months. I am scheduled to leave Calcutta for France(Dunkirk) on Wednesday (08.09.04) sometime around 1400 Hrs local time(IST).

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

With love

Kumar.

 

Hare Krishna !

Dear SvgGrdnBeauty,

It is true for everybody that when you read something for more than once you get to understand the meaning and subtlety better. That is why we should read the Gita over and over again. We should read afresh if possible everyday at least one chapter. The
meaning changes and you get to the right one easily. Simplicity is the best quality that one can have and you are not lacking at all in that. He is more easily understood by the simple mind.

And regarding your last post I have only to say that do not bother much about so many things. Just genuinely love Him, remember Him at all times, He shall take care of you in everything .

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

With love,

Kumar.

 

Dear Kumar,

Thank you for your kind posts. Yes, it does seam that no matter what the day brings if you just love Him and surrender to His names...then everything turns out right.

To you all, Happy Janmashtami! I hope you all have a wonderful day (as always of course)....
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Yasoda-mata's voice was faltering in joy. She could not speak anything and was simply shedding tears of love. Up until that day she had only looked at the sons of others. Today she was looking at her own son. Tears poured from her eyes and milk flowed from her breasts. Her whole sari became completely soaked. Again and again Yasoda-mata looked at the beautiful lotus-like, moon-like face of her son. All the nurses, gopas, and gopis awoke, hearing the crying sound of the newly born child. Everyone came and said, 'Oh, it's not a daughter, it's a son! Yasoda has given birth to a son!'

Everyone was very happy and blissful. It was as if all of Gokul, Vrajabhumi, had drowned in an ocean of blissfulness. All the gopas and gopis came running to Nanda Maharaja's quarters to see Yasoda's newly born son. The demigods were dancing in the heavenly planets, beating drums and singing, 'Hari Hari Hari-bolo! Hari-bolo! Hari-bolo! Hari-bolo!'

In the heavenly planets the deva-naris, the wives of the demigods, were showering flowers. All the gopas and gopis were dancing blissfully. Embracing one another with love and affection, they were all drowning in an ocean of happiness."


Srila Gour Govinda Swami...Mathura Meets Vrindavana, Chapter 1
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Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare!

 

Dear Kumar,

Thanks for the earlier post! I enjoyed it so much. And you are right - if we just go on chanting and repeating His Names that will change us. Even at times when we may feel that no progress is being made, if we go on with sincerity and aspiration we will see the results eventually!
I love your image of Grace and Fall - and how the new shoots of desire will appear if we become distracted from our Sadhana. That is a great image!
I will look out for the books you have kindly listed - although I have a great deal of un-read material at present.
On the subject of Sri Aurobindo, I have recently been reading online a fascinating set of conversations between Him and Pavitra, a disciple of many years and high attainment. With your deep and wide knowledge you are probably aware of these conversations, but here is a link

http://www.searchforlight.org/lotusgroove/Pavitra/Pavitra1969.htm


Will you be away from the forums whilst you're in France? I do hope not, as I would miss your prescence and your posts to this thread!

Do have a safe journey, and may His Grace continue to light your way.

Hare Krishna!

Love,

BBB.

 

Dear Prince,

I would have replied before but I thought from your previous post you might not be around the forums to read it
I'm not trying at all to put you down personally - I know that you'll understand that, and I am not saying that sex is not or cannot be a very nice thing! In the experience of the average person, it is probably about the highest they ever get! But nontheless, it remains a fleeting and temporary thing in itself, whilst occupying a huge amount of attention in terms of time spent thinking about it and everything connected with it. This is time that isn't being spent in thinking of God, doing japa and so on. It can become a huge distraction, and for most, that's what it is - far from helping them to get closer to God, it takes up their time and attention, leaving no space for the Divine to enter.
In India, there is the idea that one can have the life of a married housholder, and part of the duties of this is seen as having children, and a nice family life, which is SO important for the young. Sri Ramakrishna said that one can practice yoga and remain a householder, as you say, it's a matter of not becoming attatched. But that really all means sex aimed at procreation, not just for pleasure.
I am familiar with tantric teachings of the varma-marg, and many years ago, for some time I fell under the influence of the English occultist, Aliester Crowley, who as you are no doubt aware preached a message of 'sex-magic', do what you will etc. (I never went into any of this in terms of actual practice). However, some very powerful, and one very hellish experience made me reconsider, and I now have very little time for any ideas that sex is or can be made into, a path to the Divine.
It is as Sweet Mother says in the piece I posted earlier - it means in effect trying to see one's partner as an embodiment of the Divine, but who is there who can truly be that? Who will not break, as Mother put it?
In the case of Crowley, all his women, and indeed men, 'broke'.
Thats why I advised Jiva to see sex just as sex - if you feel no call to give it up, then just enjoy it as such - offer it to God, with thanks! That though is not the tantric thing. And one day, you're ideas may change.
Pot is ok for some imho - if it takes you to a spiritual place - and you say with you it does - But it doesn't do this for the majority of users - and I have known very many of such over thirty years.
I say just carry on chanting His Names with love! Please don't feel offended, and please don't think I'm preaching at you in the 'moralist' sense - it is not a question of conventional morality or prudishness!

Hare Krishna!

Love,

BBB.

 

Hare Krishna !

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On the subject of Sri Aurobindo, I have recently been reading online a fascinating set of conversations between Him and Pavitra, a disciple of many years and high attainment. With your deep and wide knowledge you are probably aware of these conversations, but here is a link

http://www.searchforlight.org/lotus...Pavitra1969.htm


Will you be away from the forums whilst you're in France? I do hope not, as I would miss your prescence and your posts to this thread!

Do have a safe journey, and may His Grace continue to light your way.

Hare Krishna!

Love,

BBB.
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Dear BlackBillBlake,

Thank you for your kind and beautiful post.

No, I did not know about Pavitra except the mention of his name at a few places. But thank you for that wonderful link, now I know a bit about him. It is so nice and informative.

There is some confusion going on about the date of my departure but as of now I should leave on 8.9.04. I shall, hopefully, be able to keep in touch through cyber-cafe, though it may not at all be regular.

I sincerely hope that the good work of Krishna seva will continue under voluntary stewardship of all of you. And I am sure it is very difficult to get a better rudder than you for this Hare-Krishna-thread-ship(Of course, He is the navigator). I have no doubt that this thread is serving His purpose only and undoubtedly so many others will be benefitted like me.


Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

With love, best wishes and regards,

Kumar.