hare krishna

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  1. sleeping jiva

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    BBB: Yeah. I agree with u. But this is the problem, we should not rely upon our interpretations. Bhagavadgita by Srila Prabhupada and his 50 books gives us everything to know. What is that? To love Krishna unconditionally, without reason. This is what I'm saying, of course u need to develop knowledge, but this knowledge should be used in getting to the platform of love to Krishna.
     
  2. SvgGrdnBeauty

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    In honour of us reaching 800 posts... (Wow...)... a very very beautiful picture that was just shared with me:

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    Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare! :) :) :)
     
  3. PhotoGra1

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    I felt the same way at 16, and I am not that much older. Unfortunately, I think regret is a universal part of the human experience.

    You get over it, though...and still learn from it, etc.
     
  4. ChiefCowpie

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    <FONT color=#660000><FONT face="Book Antiqua">Kouros Helios (Krishna) and Rhoda (Radha) on Rhodes
    <H3 align=center><FONT face="Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Times" color=#660000>by Bhakti Ananda Goswami<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">
     
  5. gdkumar

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    Hare Krishna!

    Was out of town for a few days. Running temperature for quite some time now.

    Read all those beautiful posts from all, particularly from BlackBillBlake, ChiefCowPie,SleepingJiva,SvgGrdnBeauty and Jesus.That piece of advice from BlackBillBlake to SvgGrdnBeauty is wonderful. And those beautiful photographs are simply entrancing.

    Thank you all. May God bless all of us with His divine light.


    Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
    Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

    With love,

    Kumar.
     
  6. SvgGrdnBeauty

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    Oh Kumar...I hope you feel much better soon!

    Hare Krishna!
     
  7. BlackBillBlake

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    Thanks Kumar - and may God bless you with a speedy recovery:)

    Om Shanti.
     
  8. BlackBillBlake

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    On the path of yoga though, there are no regrets! Krishna tells Arjuna in the Bhagavad Gita that no step is ever wasted or in vain on this path, and even just a little of it can bring enourmous benefit!

    Here's a short quote from the Gita





    Chapter 6. Sankhya-yoga
    TEXT 40



    TRANSLATION
    [​IMG]The Blessed Lord said: Son of Prtha, a transcendentalist engaged in auspicious activities does not meet with destruction either in this world or in the spiritual world; one who does good, My friend, is never overcome by evil.

    TEXT 41

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    [​IMG]The unsuccessful yogi, after many, many years of enjoyment on the planets of the pious living entities, is born into a family of righteous people, or into a family of rich aristocracy.

    TEXT 42

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    [​IMG]Or he takes his birth in a family of transcendentalists who are surely great in wisdom. Verily, such a birth is rare in this world.

    TEXT 43

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    [​IMG]On taking such a birth, he again revives the divine consciousness of his previous life, and he tries to make further progress in order to achieve complete success, O son of Kuru.

    TEXT 44

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    [​IMG]By virtue of the divine consciousness of his previous life, he automatically becomes attracted to the yogic principles--even without seeking them. Such an inquisitive transcendentalist, striving for yoga, stands always above the ritualistic principles of the scriptures.

    TEXT 45

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    [​IMG]But when the yogi engages himself with sincere endeavor in making further progress, being washed of all contaminations, then ultimately, after many, many births of practice, he attains the supreme goal.

    TEXT 46

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    [​IMG]A yogi is greater than the ascetic, greater than the empiricist and greater than the fruitive worker. Therefore, O Arjuna, in all circumstances, be a yogi.

    TEXT 47

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    [​IMG]And of all yogis, he who always abides in Me with great faith, worshiping Me in transcendental loving service, is most intimately united with Me in yoga and is the highest of all.


    Hare Krishna!















     
  9. sleeping jiva

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    very true, bill :) thanks

    I hope gdkumar will get better soon. Or better said let him be healthy right away :)
     
  10. gdkumar

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    Hare Krishna!

    My dear Lord Krishna and His love is everywhere in so many forms and in so many ways ! Thank you all for the kind and compassionate words. Jiva, brother, your words touched my Gopal, deep inside my heart, and made me cry.

    My body is ill but I am in bliss after reading the following :

    "Nabhinandeta maranam nabhinandeta jivanam
    Kalam eva pratiksheta nidesham bhritako yatha."

    Dark death nor life I hymn, but wait
    Like Time upon His guidance still
    I bow to what He would dictate,
    Like servants doing their masters' will.

    (From The Mahabharata, Shanti Parva.)



    Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
    Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

    With love,

    Kumar
     
  11. PhotoGra1

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    I own and have read the 'gita.

    I still think that to have no regret, you are denying the existence of regret.
    That doesn't mean that there was no benefit, or learning.

    Good people do most of the horrible things in this world. There is only a handful of true monsters. To deny regret is, in my opinion, to deny being human.

    That being said, I don't consider myself educated about Hare Krishna, the Bhag....ita, or religion in general.
     
  12. BlackBillBlake

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    I'm not saying that there are no regrets in this world. In the ordinary course of life, I'm sure everyone has cause some cause for regret! That is the nature of life here. There are many things going on all the time over which we have no control, and to see for example, pointless and preventable suffering of others is cause enough in itself to cause the sensitive person to feel regret even dismay!
    But according to the Vedic literature if we look more deeply into things we see that everybody here is subject to certain intrinsic causes of suffering - birth, death, diseise and old age. Nobody wants to become old, but even so, one will be forced by the materiel nature to grow old and eventually die. At that time, ie the hour of death a person who has spent their life only in the pursuit of materiel goals - wealth, reputation, worldly knowledge, sensual enjoyment - may have cause for regret. Everbody in this world is subject to these conditions of materiel natue. So the question is: in a world of suffering and misery, can there be a path to true and lasting happiness?
    The Vedic literature says we suffer here because of our false consciousness, based on the ego, and our lack of consciousness of God, the source of our being. If we want happiness we have to try to recover our original consciousness of who we are, what and who God is, and what is our relation to Him. The proceseses that exist to enable us to do this are known as yoga. There are different paths of yoga, but in this age, the best and easiest path is said to be Bhakti, or love of God. This is all explained in the Gita and other Vedic literatures.
    The point is though, that activities undertaken for this end, yogic activity, that is, are not on the same level as ordinary action. Ordinarily, action leads to entanglement in the materiel nature. A person only acts because he wants some result, some fruit of action. Such a person is known as a karmi -one busy creating karma. Such fruits, Sri Krishna tells us, are temporary and limited. But if we act in Krishna Consciousness, trying sincerely to please Him and serve Him and His devotees, there is no karma, and so we gradually become liberated from our bondage to materiel nature. There can be no regret on this path because each step is a step towards God, towards freedom, bliss and knowledge. And a happiness not dependent on the trinkets of the world, but the uncovering of the true blissful nature of the self and our love of Krishna. And the results of yoga are permanent. Even with the end of this body, this consciousness will go on -

    I hope that helps, but if you want to know about Krishna Consciousness, please read Srila Prabhupada's book's!
     
  13. SvgGrdnBeauty

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    I have a question. Yesterday I bought this very spiffy mounted leaf with a picture of Krishna and Radhe painted on it at a flea market (my mom has no clue what it is but let me buy it because I liked it so much...but that's not important now) and I was telling my friend about it and she told me this:

    "having pictures of deities (Radha-Krishna) in your room is probably not the best thing unless it has a cover over it. you should not be naked or doing anything lewd (great word) before those pictures. all my pictures are kept in the dining room...it is an offense to mistreat deities even if they are in picture form.

    just thought you should know."

    I don't get changed in my room anyway...but regardless of that, I really can't put it anywhere else. Also, I love it too much to have it anywhere else but my room...I stay in here more than anywhere else in the house because I do my work in here and my house is often too loud for my liking...

    So, is it really a problem that I keep the picture in my room? I don't want to do anything wrong....
     
  14. ChiefCowpie

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    this etiquette of not appearing naked before Krishna is more reserved for a Diety that one offers puja (worship) to...fill your room up with Krishna

    many devotees due to not making big effort to have big incomes live in small living space...i.e., one room apartments and they fill their living quarters to the ceilings with books, pictures, posters and all the devotional paraphernalia one could imagine and so certainly for them, nudity is unavoidable in front of these forms of Krishna...plus too, does one think Krishna does not see all and is not aware of what your penis or vagina looks like? even without your trying to show God your genitals, He is seeing your genitals... God is all seeing

    only make distinction when you enter into Diety worship that this is different as one is feeding and dressing the Lord...much more personal

    and too, doing something "wrong" is more in the realm of doing something with malice, spite or hate against something or someone... if you innocently breach some etiquette, it is not so much big offense... what is the intent of your heart? that is what is important... to love
     
  15. SvgGrdnBeauty

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    Thank you so much...I feel a bit more easy about having that there... Just when she said it to me she freaked me out...but what you said makes a lot more sense to me and was along the lines of what I was thinking...but I tend to freak out sometimes...

    Thank you so much again CheifCowPie :)
     
  16. SvgGrdnBeauty

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    Oh...btw...this is what the picture looks like...its a bit dark because of the scanner though :(

    [​IMG]
     
  17. ChiefCowpie

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    very beautiful and also i believe it to be a leaf from a Pipal Tree but am not sure... perhaps gkumar might know as he might be more familar with trees of india
     
  18. SvgGrdnBeauty

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    That's very possible. The man told me that it was made in India...and I've never seen a leaf like that that I can remember...
     
  19. ChiefCowpie

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    [​IMG]
    Bata Krishna on a leaf
     
  20. BlackBillBlake

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    Words of wisdom from Chief Cowpie!

    I'm sure the reason you were worried is because you're trying to pleases Krishna[​IMG] What the Chief says is about right, IMHO.

    I'm going away for a few days to 'Earth Spirit' - before I go, here's a not very good poem I wrote one dark winter's day about two years ago - I thought it would be better here than the poetry forum. Hope anyway that it expresses something.........

    A man approached me in the street –
    Handed me a book
    Asked me for a buck.
    It was cold in the street while he explained –
    His hands shook
    I took the book
    I took some inscense too.
    The book was about Sri Krishna
    And our home in the spiritual sky
    And how we can go there to be with Him
    Even before the body dies.
    It said
    Hare Krishna
    Hare Krishna
    Krishna Krishna
    Hare Hare
    Hare Rama
    Hare Rama
    Rama Rama
    Hare Hare!
    Jai Jai Radhe Radhe!
    Jai Jai Govinda.!

    You may think me a brainwashed fool!
    You may think me a little mad!
    But in the book he gave me
    It says Om Tat Sat!
     

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