hare krishna

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  1. gdkumar

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    Hare Krishna!

    Dear SleepingJiva,

    Thank you for your kind post.

    Whether we take Lord Krishna's name or not, I suppose, nobody -even the tiniest of the tiny insects - is unwanted here or anywhere on this earth. After all, it is His will that all of us are here in this mundane realities to take part in His Lila.

    Yes, now the Mahamantra, on its own will, has found its way in my posts. But it is best kept in the special niche of your heart's altar. This Mahamantra is the seed of Mahaprem.


    Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
    Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.


    With love,

    Kumar.
     
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    Wow...such a wonderful collection of posts and stories and pictures...and repetitions of the mahamantra that have collect here since I was here last. Sorry that I don't have anything to share with you all...tomorrow is my last day of Band Camp though (aka the intense week of marching band practice) so aftert that I should be home...then I will definetely share one of the many lovely things that my dear friend Priitaa Devi Dasi sends me... [​IMG] But thank you all (gdkumar, sleepingjiva, chiefcowpie, blackbillblake, and krishnadasa) for brightening my tiring day...I'm going to sleep now...but hopefully I'll be able to share my stories again soon. [​IMG] [​IMG] Haribol!

    Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare!!!! [​IMG]
     
  3. ChiefCowpie

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    the pleasure is mine... may we all be Radha dasis
     
  4. sleeping jiva

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    what is Radha dasis? thanks
     
  5. gdkumar

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    Hare Krishna!

    Most difficult thing can be made easy.

    While chanting or doing any other type of sadhana the biggest problem that we face is distraction. Distraction is caused by all heavy-weight enemies. Under the leadership of our mind(King Dhritarashtra) these enemies are Desire,Greed,Anger,Ego,Fascination, Malice, etc. These enemies constantly try to distract our mind and our mind tends to become their servant. It is the most difficult thing to get rid of these enemies. They always defeat us. We need to pray for this to the Lord and no matter how many times we get distracted, we should go back to our sadhana of chanting, etc.

    It is so difficult to remove or reduce desire,greed,anger,ego,malice, etc. but it is very simple and easy to increase them by many times. What we can do is we can leave them as it is or increase them and then change their heads towards our beloved Lord Krishna. Like the following:

    Desire : Let there be desire but change the head. Let all our desire be only for His Lotus Feet.
    Greed : Let all our greed be there only for His Lotus Feet.
    Anger : Let all our anger be there for still being so much far from His Lotus Feet.
    Ego : Let all our ego be there for being servant to His Lotus Feet.
    Fascination : Let all our fascination be there for His Lotus Feet.
    Malice : Let all our malice be there that somebody has already got it and we are still unable to be at His Lotus Feet. Let the thought be we also must do it and for that let anything happen to us.

    If we can think and pray like this it very soon does wonders. Chanting becomes almost unbroken and automatically continues like flow of oil. A time soon comes when chanting is clearly heard coming from our heart even when we are not actually chanting.


    Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
    Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.


    With love,

    Kumar.
     
  6. sleeping jiva

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    we should follow four regulative principles, thus we can be freed from all anger, hatred, egotism and material thinking.

    no meat eating
    no illicit sex
    no hazard
    no intoxication

    otherwise we make offenses to the Lotus feet of Lord Krishna, when we chant. How can we become freed from these bad habits? by chanting :)
     
  7. SvgGrdnBeauty

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    As promised...my contributions:

    In this endeavor there is no loss or diminution, and a little advancement on this path can protect one from the most dangerous type of fear.

    PURPORT

    Activity in Krsna consciousness, or acting for the benefit of Krsna without expectation of sense gratification, is the highest transcendental quality of work. Even a small beginning of such activity finds no impediment, nor can that small beginning be lost at any stage. Any work begun on the material plane has to be completed, otherwise the whole attempt becomes a failure. But any work begun in Krsna consciousness has a permanent effect, even though not finished. The performer of such work is therefore not at a loss even if his work in Krsna consciousness is incomplete. One percent done in Krsna consciousness bears permanent results, so that the next beginning is from the point of two percent; whereas, in material activity, without a hundred percent success, there is no profit.

    Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada... Bhagavad-gita 2.40 (purport)


    The following is thanks to my friend Prtha Deva Dasi:
    "Srila Prabhupada Said”- by Sruti Kirti das


    March 1973, Camp: ISKCON Mayapur

    This was my first trip to Mayapur with Srila Prabhupada. It was
    before the guest house was built. The facilities where he stayed were
    very austere. Basically, it was the goshala, a thatched hut. It had
    been prepared for his stay. Srila Prabhupada stayed in one room and
    the rest of us stayed on the other side of a partition.

    I had never seen so many mosquitoes in my life. It was so bad that by
    the time I had the net over his bed there were already mosquitoes
    inside the net. One night, after we both climbed under the net I was
    massaging his legs. I said, "There are so many mosquitoes. Should I
    kill them, Srila Prabhupada?" He said, "Yes! They are attacking.
    According to Sastra, if one is being attacked, you have the right to
    defend yourself. And, they are attacking." So, I was massaging and
    watching. Whenever I saw one in the air I would raise my hands and
    clap them together. Sometimes I would gently smack Srila Prabhupada's
    body as one landed on his head or back. It was the most unusual
    service I had ever done but I enjoyed it immensely. I never
    considered my self much of a warrior but this enemy was no match for
    me. I had finally been given a service I was good at, killing
    insects. Srila Prabhupada was so very kind.

    He also had the best description of these pesky insects. One morning
    he rang his bell very early. I walked into his room very slowly still
    half asleep. He looked at me with a touch of anger and said, "Some
    mosquito, last night, he was cutting my forehead. He created so much
    disturbance. He made it difficult for me to do my translating work."
    It was incredible. No matter what was going on Srila Prabhupada
    always related it to Krishna and his service. It was never about
    bodily inconvenience. He would only complain about something
    interfering with his service. Of course for the two years I was with
    him that is all I saw, Srila Prabhupada engaged in service to his
    guru maharaja and Srila Prabhupada in the state of bliss. This always
    went on simultaneously.

    It was very chilly there in the evening but Srila Prabhupada didn't
    complain about it. He did complain about the unnecessary talk that
    would go on amongst his disciples. Since we were all staying in the
    same room any talking that was going on could be heard by him. He
    said, "Tell them to be quiet. All this talk is not good. Simply they
    are gossiping. Tell them to stop."

    This was not easy for me to do because these devotees were usually my
    senior godbrothers. I would tell them that Prabhupada asked for
    quiet. This same scenario occurred here months later when he stayed
    at the guest house. Mayapura was such a quiet place in '72-73 that
    any talking could be heard by Srila Prabhupada quite well. Whenever
    Srila Prabhupada was at a temple many of his disciples would come
    together. This was a perfect situation for devotees to exchange
    stories about this person and that person, etc. etc. Srila Prabhupada
    said, "Why must everything deteriorate into this idle talk, idle
    discussion. This is wasting time, destroying Krishna Consciousness."

    I always watered it down before telling it to my godbrothers. I just
    didn't have the nerve to tell it as he told me. I never heard him
    mention it to anyone when they were in his room but he sure did let
    me know about it.

    This was a quality of Srila Prabhupada's. He was very careful not to
    discourage anyone through criticism. If they were capable of dealing
    with it he would chastise. Otherwise he was the greatest
    transcendental diplomat there ever was. His only goal was to infect
    as many people as possible with love of Krishna and if you had the
    chance of associating with him personally then there was a strong
    possibility of becoming deeply attached to him no matter how hard you
    fight it.
     
  8. SvgGrdnBeauty

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    July 7-8, 1973,
    London Rathayatra Festival

    The second half of yesterday's story about the katchori took place in
    Calcutta during the first week of July. This is significant because
    after this episode Srila Prabhupada was deciding where he would
    travel to next. This was always an exciting adventure. On this
    occasion the senior devotees were suggesting that perhaps Srila
    Prabhupada should go to Hawaii or Los Angeles so that he could rest.
    However, there was an invitation from the devotees in London to
    attend the Ratha Yatra festival.

    Srila Prabhupada was very expert in engaging his disciples so that
    they could develop their love and attachment for him. The process of
    deciding where to travel occurred over and over again, wherever Srila
    Prabhupada was staying. He would allow his disciples to suggest
    places and reasons why he should go there. Hawaii was mentioned often
    because of the nice weather and good fruit. He would listen to his
    disciple's opinions and then do whatever he wanted. It was a great
    deal of fun, once I became acquainted with the process.

    Sometimes, he would travel to cities all over the world without ever
    leaving his sitting room. The most important thing for his secretary
    to know was that until he said, "send a telegram" or "tell them to
    send us tickets" it was only a suggestion by Srila Prabhupada. It
    kept his disciples around the world busy painting temples blue and
    white as these were considered Srila Prabhupada's favorite colors.
    I'm not sure, but sometimes I think Srila Prabhupada considered all
    temples outside of India had the fragrance of an M.A.B. paint store.

    On this occasion he said to me, "Srutakirti, what do you think?
    Should I go to London and attend the Ratha Yatra festival or should I
    go to Hawaii and rest." I had been with Srila Prabhupada for almost
    one year and I knew he would do whatever he wanted. I was thrilled
    that he would even ask for my opinion. Just that one acknowledgment
    by him was enough to last for my entire life. I responded
    quickly, "Srila Prabhupada, if you go to the Ratha Yatra festival in
    London so many people will be benefited by you association." He
    smiled broadly and said, "Yes, I think your observation is correct."
    After listening to everyone Srila Prabhupada said, "Thank you for the
    advice. I am going to London for the Ratha Yatra."

    It was an amazing festival. My perspective was limited, since I
    stayed by Srila Prabhupada's side but it was filled with adventure.
    Srila Prabhupada was very enthusiastic. His Vyasasana was available
    on the Ratha cart but he decided to walk with the devotees. Srila
    Prabhupada was walking in front of the cart clapping his hands to the
    beat of the kirtan. He would raise his hands in the air encouraging
    everyone to dance. He looked like the supreme puppeteer. As he raised
    his hands everyone would leap into the air in ecstasy. It didn't
    require any purification. If you were near him, you were in bliss.
    Except for the bobbies (policemen). They were looking for someone in
    charge. They wanted to calm everyone down. They were keen enough to
    realize that if they could control Srila Prabhupada, they could
    control the "unruly" crowd.

    Somehow or other they thought I was an 'associate' of Your Divine
    Grace. One of the bobbies said, "You'll have to tell your leader to
    sit down. He's causing too much of a disturbance. Everyone is
    becoming wild and we can't control the crowd." I said, "All right"
    and then did nothing. It was apparent that Srila Prabhupada was in
    charge of this festival. I had no idea who was attending but Srila
    Prabhupada was visibly ecstatic. They approached me again, more
    firmly, saying, "You must tell him. He'll have to sit down." Again I
    agreed. With fear of reprisal I tapped Srila Prabhupada on his
    shoulder and said, "Prabhupada, the policemen, they want you to sit
    down. They say that you are creating havoc here in the parade." Srila
    Prabhupada looked through me for a brief moment. He quickly turned
    away with his arms still raised in the air. Smilingly majestically,
    he continued walking with a bounce in his step. He allowed everyone
    present to enter into his world of bliss. He never stopped. He walked
    the length of the parade. The bobbies gave up their attack. They were
    no match for the pure devotee and the Lord of the Universe.

    Srila Prabhupada, when I said that so many people would be benefited
    by your association, I had no idea of the plans you had. You were an
    ocean of mercy, that was being freely given to everyone attending.
    Please forgive me for tapping you on your shoulder that day. Due to
    my dullness I attempted to distract you from your mission. Thank you
    for ignoring my countless shortcomings.

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    "Therefore the origin of lust is also in the Supreme. If, therefore,
    lust is transformed into love for the Supreme, or transformed into
    Krishna Consciousness – or, in other words, desiring everything for
    Krishna – then both lust and wrath can be spiritualized. Hanuman, the
    great servator of Lord Rama, engaged his wrath upon his enemies for
    the satisfaction of the Lord." BG 3.37 P

    "The pure devotees hear from the authorities and chant, sing and
    write of the glories of the Lord. Mahamuni Vyasadevia heard from
    Narada, and then he chanted in *WRITING*; Sukadeva Gosvami studied
    from his father, and he described it to Pariksit; that is the way of
    Srimad-Bhagavatam." (Btwm. 1.13.10)

    "Love of Godhead is dormant in every living entity, and the entire
    process of devotional service unto the Lord is meant for awakening
    this dormant, eternal love of Godhead." (Btwm. 3.2.20)

    "So we want accommodations for at least forty men and women which
    will constitute the Sankirtana Party." SPL to Sriman Radharama
    Sharanji 70-6-25
    Bhe spiritual sky there are innumerable planets, sanatana planets,
    eternal planets, which are never destroyed, annihilated. But of all
    those spiritual planets there is one planet, the original planet,
    which is called Goloka Vrndavana. So these informations are there in
    the Bhagavad-gita and we are given the opportunity for leaving this
    material world and get our eternal life in the eternal kingdom." BG
    Intro

    "But the spiritual world, which is beyond this material sky, paras
    tasmat tu bhavo 'nyo [Bg. 8.20], but that avyakta, that nonmanifested
    spiritual sky, is the paramam gatim, that is, one should desire, one
    should hanker after reaching that supreme kingdom." BG Intro


    "Simply by chanting the holy name of Krsna, one is relieved from all
    the reactions of a sinful life. One can complete the nine processes
    of devotional service simply by chanting the holy name." -- Sri
    Caitanya Caritamrita, Madhya 15.107
     
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    [​IMG]

    I think this picture is really beautiful...
     
  10. ChiefCowpie

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    Radha dasi would be an assistant of Srimanti Radharani

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    Srimati Radharhani would be the person to the right of the black person playing the flute

    Jaya Radhe!!!!!!
     
  11. ChiefCowpie

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    here Srimati Radharhani is on the left of her flute playing lover...sometimes on the right, sometimes on the left, you never know what side she is going to be on
     
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    beauty is its own self evident Trtuh
     
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    From ‘The Teachings of Lord Chaitanya’



    Chapter 30: The Transcendental Pastimes of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa



    Although Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, embodies all superexcellence and beauty, when He is amongst the damsels of Vraja, He is known as Gopījanavallabha. The devotees cannot relish the beauty of the Supreme Lord more than the damsels of Vraja. In Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (10.33.7) it is confirmed that although Kṛṣṇa, the son of Devakī, is the last word in superexcellence and beauty, when He is amongst the gopīs it appears that He is a sublime jewel set amongst divine golden craftsmanship. Although Lord Caitanya accepted this as the highest realization of the Supreme Lord as conjugal lover, He nonetheless requested Rāmānanda Rāya to proceed further.



    Upon hearing this request, Rāmānanda Rāya remarked that this was the first time that he had been asked to go further than the gopīs in an attempt to understand Kṛṣṇa. There is certainly transcendental intimacy between the damsels of Vraja and Kṛṣṇa, Rāmānanda pointed out, but out of all the relationships, the relationship between Rādhārāṇī and Kṛṣṇa in conjugal love is the most perfect. No common man can understand the ecstasy of transcendental love between Rādhārāṇī and Kṛṣṇa, nor can he understand the transcendental flavor of the transcendental love between Kṛṣṇa and the gopīs. Yet if one tries to follow in the footsteps of the gopīs, he may become situated in the highest stage of transcendental love. Thus one who wants to be elevated to the transcendental stage of perfection should follow in the footsteps of the damsels of Vraja as an assistant maidservant of the gopīs.



    Lord Caitanya exhibited the mode of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī when She was contacted from Dvārakā by Śrī Kṛṣṇa. Such transcendental love is not possible for any common man; therefore one should not imitate the highest perfectional stage exhibited by Caitanya Mahāprabhu. If, however, one desires to be in that association, he may follow in the footsteps of the gopīs. In the Padma Purāṇa it is stated that just as Rādhārāṇī is dear to Kṛṣṇa, similarly the kuṇḍa known as Rādhākuṇḍa is also very dear to Him. Rādhārāṇī is the only gopī who is dearer to Kṛṣṇa than ail the other gopīs. In Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (10.30.28) it is also stated that Rādhārāṇī and the gopīs render the highest perfectional loving service to the Lord and that the Lord is so pleased with them that He does not wish to leave the company of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī.

    Srila Prabhupada.


     
  14. sleeping jiva

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    thanks Chief for your explanation, I appreciate it, now I understand.


    this is what occured to me yesterday, think about it:


    People are mad, they're crazy after material enjoyment. When u see them as they truly are- crazy, what will u do to keep your sanity? You will chant this, my friend:
     
  15. BlackBillBlake

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    Dear Sleeping Jiva - you are right, people are crazy - and they see nothing but the world of the senses. It is very easy to slip into having a negative attitude towards such people. But thats not right. We should try to have compassion, even if this isn't easy.

    It is out of compassion that Gauranga and others have come to give us the Maha Mantra.
    In the past, as I've mentioned before, I had some association with devotees of Jayatirtha - I was struck by the negative attitude some of them had towards ordinary people - it is all too easy to categorize them as 'demons', esp. those who eat meat. But they are in ignorance - they can't be condemmned out of hand. It is good to remember that it is only through the Mercy of God that we are not in a similar position.
     
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    definetely. sometimes u just can't be compassionate, they won't allow you :):). they wanna be cheated. I know what you mean by "ït's easy to slip into negative attitude". from a certian point, I began to realizing that the bad you see in others is your own bad. But, man, in a position I'm in right now with no clear love for Krishna, this is not possible to control. Sometimes you're just angry. It's like when supress it, it becomes bigger. You are not the compassionate, it's Krishna. U can be compassionate even when you say : "this people are crazy, don't talk to them" to some devotee, so u'll protect him from the material disease. That is compassion. it's not that, ok for the sake of material comfort, peace or good vibe I'll shut up and let him do what he does. What do u think? This is hard, becuz maya want you to be in material comfort. Sometimes even it's better to shut up yourself, not to loose your own devotional attitude. The materialistic people are in ignorance, if you're negative about this and u try to change it it's positive. Devotees may seem like negative, for example Prabhupada, but he's only non-compromising, that's all. If u advocate Krishna, u talk about him and you're not afraid to explain it to non-devotees, u can't be nothing, but positive.
    The first sign of facism is that it needs the enemy, otherwise the facistic people has no value, the enemy gives it. This is present in our society on every corner. We are good, becuz we create our contraparts. This is the dualism of our bodies. We see good and evil, becuz we falsly identify with our bodies. As soon as we are here, we are conditioned. It's better to use this dualism in Krishna's service, because only that way, we can reach the absolute platfrom with no good and evil -just Krishna within every living soul. But I'm not there, I know that. If I'm not there, I'm in the clutches of this dualism, I use it in service to Krishna. U don't have to make the people guilty, this is very wrong philosophy, you should show them better food than meat, not criticizing them. Krishna consciousness is the greatest thing in the world, u should be like a commercial, show them all the good things it brings.
     
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    Wake up and get real, HAIR
     
  18. sleeping jiva

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    hi, jailmate. you're certinaly attracted to Krishna. You're always welcome. Your minimalistic posts make me laugh, I laugh about myself, cuz I see how limited I am.
     
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    and your bald head, fool.
     
  20. jesuswasamonkey

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    Yay! I'm crazy 'cuz I don't call the head-honcho god Krishna!

    Praise Ortiz Praise Ortiz
    Ortiz Ortiz Praise Praise
    Praise Ralph Praise Ralph
    Ralph Ralph Praise Praise!

    Sorry kids, I'm not trying to offend, but to call everybody who walks a different path than you crazy is crazy in and of itself. All paths end up in the same place eventually, at the peak of the beautiful mountain of the gods, except for the path of hate, conflict and seperatism, that path is going the opposite direction, down the deep dark valley of the soul.
     

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