i will end my part in this discussion by saying that you folks will one day realize all too well the debt of gratitude you owe to those that are willing to suffer so that you may make such brash generalizations. much love
Let nobody on this earth suffer because of me or any body else. Sorry for causing such a grave concern. Let there be light and happiness. With love.......... Kumar.
Firstly, I'm really sorry that you're ending this discussion. Please, don't. My goal is not to argue, but share wisdom. It is said that everybody is a guru. Everybody can put you on a right path. Even children for example. Me and gdkumar don't express our personal opinions. We are sharing, what we've learnt from the scriptures as Bhagavadgita. I don't want to put words in gdkumar's mouth, but I clearly recognize that all he's saying is in accordance with Bhagavagita. Of course, when you just parrot things and you don't really know what they mean -that's useless, but I'm saying only what I believe in and experienced myself. In the the tmes, when Sri Krishna Himself gave a lecture to Arjuna on the battlefield of Kuruksetra and it became later this book Bhagavadgita, there was no such an amount of suffering as it is today. You think that the words from Bhagavadgita bring suffering, but it is vice versa. People, who misused the message of it, made this world a living hell. This world is full of suffering. You can't deny that. namely there are four miseries: birth, death, old age and diseases. Whatever material advancement you attain, you're hopless against those. But al the more, people add up suffering by their egotism -that's the reason of wars, violence and arguements as well. We think that we are gods, even though we don't posses any of godish qualities. there's no other way how to stop your egotism as to serve Lord Krishna. Instead of loving yourself, love Krishna. You need to substitute. Every sign of your charity, which is not done in Krishna consciousness is a waste. You're helping people in their own egotisms. You're helping them in their body attachements. Even though it seems like a good deed, from the larger perspective your efforts are pointless. The only help you can give to people is to make them Krishna conscious -make them love God. haribol!
not everyone want to merge into Krishna...some want to merge into Kali Ma mamamamamamamamamamamamamamamama!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes, there are people in ignorance. The age of quarrel, the age of Kali, doesnt disturb devotees of Krishna.
Dear Osiris, Please join back with an open and candid mind. I am terribly dismayed by your post. 'Brash' is a very harsh word to use. Where did I go wrong? It was just a discussion and there was no attempt to impose any idea into anybody. If you thought otherwise it is O.K. Let us not say or do anything today for which we will be ashamed and embarrased tomorrow. Sorry again. With love.............Kumar.
"not everyone want to merge into Krishna...some want to merge into Kali Ma mamamamamamamamamamamamamamamama!!!!!!!!!!!!"........Chiefcowpie. Dear Chiefcowpie, Looks like things are improving. If you want to merge into Ma Kali, you are not far away, please keep chanting ma..ma..ma..ma..ma..ma..ma..ma..ma..ma..ma..ma..................... With love...........kumar.
sorry but Kali Ma is not referenced in the name Kali Yuga...Kali Yuga refers to iron which is the most base metal...gold, silver, bronze...jiv jago sleeping soul
i'm not gonna excuse your ignorance...that's up to you...awaken and dispell the illusions you have propped your reality upon
yah but sleeping jiva and i didn't have a silly argument...he said his God was better than my God Om Narayani Om
lol, that's funny. gdkumar & me are trying to explain this for a long time. As soon as you love God, there's no difference. Please try to love Him sincerely & you are ok. Thanx for your advice, I'll try to overcome my illusions, which I've based my life on. In fact that is the only reason for suffering to be in illusion-maya.
My son calls me 'baba' and my nephew calls me 'kaka'. I am the same man. Dollar coin sides are Elizabath-II and Dollar-1,1996.The coin is same. It is the old problem of 6 and 9. Problem of looking at it. When one sees it as 6 the other one at the opposite side sees it as 9. When both of them are at the same side then there is no problem, both see the same...either 6 or 9. 6 or 9 it is the same writing. It is one God, names are Kali or Krishna, Christ or Buddha and so on. Jai Ma Kali, Jai Sri Krishna, Jai Prabhu Jesus, Jai Prabhu Buddha............. Jai Bhagwan. With love...................Kumar.
I must thank you all for this post... ...I am always very interested to learn about different points of view in religion. Krishna and the ideas that thoughs who follow him have always interested me the most...I especially like it because of what was mentioned before...its all the same God no matter what you call Him and that we all have a little of Him within us...and its all just a matter of interpretation and realization. I have grown away from the idea of organized religion (how terribly ironic since my family is Roman Catholic and I was baptized into that church)...because I think that religion is what you believe and it is about your personal connection with God...no one can tell you how to love Him...just as long as you do... ... I seemed to have strayed a little off topic...but what I meant to say is thank you for the insight on Krishna...it is nice to know that some people share in my philosophy...
"I have grown away from the idea of organized religion (how terribly ironic since my family is Roman Catholic and I was baptized into that church)...because I think that religion is what you believe and it is about your personal connection with God...no one can tell you how to love Him...just as long as you do..." Dear SvgGrdnBeauty, You are a beautiful mind and soul. Thanks for your kind post. We often forget that human beings are not for religions but religions are for human beings. Religion is not life. How we live our lives is religion. I understand your feelings but please be patient and tolerant about your and all other religions. After all, all religions talk about one God only. Let us take that substance matter only and try to love Him the way we like it. After all a lover at all times tries to love and endeavours to ensure that he/she is also loved by the beloved. And there is another lover who just wants to love without caring for what is received back. Because this lover just cannot help but love.The reasons if you ask, you hear, " I just love to love Him". When breeze comes it carries not only fragrance,it carries some stink from somewhere as well. Same way all religions give you some happiness and some uncomfortable issues. I suppose that is the divine game. Please try to recognize the good points and accept them. At last I would like to suggest that do not have any doubt about dear Lord Jesus. Please always remember that He comes first and Christianity comes after. The same is true for all others. Please take the substance, the yolk and the egg white.....not the shell. Please go ahead and never stop, endless mines are ahead...copper..silver.. gold..platinum..diamond...................... With lots of love and prayers................Kumar.