Hancock resigns

Discussion in 'U.K. Politics' started by Xyzlobomb, Jun 26, 2021.

  1. Xyzlobomb

    Xyzlobomb Members

    Finally a government minister has done the right thing and resigned.
    Wish they would all go to be honest.
    This is again showing that this government cares nothing for its citizens. He shouldn't of had to resign he should have been sacked long ago.
    Once again a lack of leadership from Boris Johnson. Letting his cronies get away with anything but telling the rest of us we must follow the rules.
    The government's handling of the pandemic has been at best a catalogue of errors.
    I think when the inquiry starts there will be some very worried people.
    Personally I think some of these government ministers should be charged with manslaughter.
     
  2. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    [QUOTE="Xyzlobomb, post: 9134978, member: 304356"]Finally a government minister has done the right thing and resigned.
    Wish they would all go to be honest.
    This is again showing that this government cares nothing for its citizens. He shouldn't of had to resign he should have been sacked long ago.
    Once again a lack of leadership from Boris Johnson. Letting his cronies get away with anything but telling the rest of us we must follow the rules.
    The government's handling of the pandemic has been at best a catalogue of errors.
    I think when the inquiry starts there will be some very worried people.
    Personally I think some of these government ministers should be charged with manslaughter.[/QUOTE]


    No, he didn't resign voluntarily - he was being pushed by the numbers of back-bench scumbag 'nasty party' members who were baying for his blood !!!
     
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  3. shanks59

    shanks59 Banned

    Hancock should never have had the job in the first place, he shouldn't be the only minister to go this country needs rid of this entire evil, corrupt, lying self serving, freedom taking bunch of scum as soon as possible. And when the enquiry to the pandemic happens it will just be a complete whitewash they will just blame the public for not complying with their rules and spreading the virus.
     
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  4. colloquial

    colloquial Members

    I'm glad not to have a surname like Hancock lol
     
  5. wilsjane

    wilsjane Senior Member

    Why do you think that, since the measures put in place worked and people were not dying in hospital corridors. In fact our 1.7% 2020 increase in mortality was about the lowest in the world.

    People were deliberately panicked in order not to overwhelm the ICU beds and it worked. The Nightingale hospitals were never needed, but the sensible approach to use them as post operative infection free units has both allowed major surgery to recommence and has dropped post-op mortality below average.

    The panic measures were largely unnecessary in hindsight, but without them people simply would not have used their common sense. They did have the slight negative effect of slowing herd immunity.
    To now see the TRUE picture, you have to realise that 95% of ALL deaths involve a virus in the final 72 hours. Which virus attacks them makes very little difference, but to give dying people the best hopes, ICU units must be available and not flooded with thousands of people who simply needed a few paracetamol tablets and a few days in bed.

    The figures when around 800 people were dying every day with covid in their system were highly misleading, since covid was not the primary CAUSE of their death.
    In fact, the TOTAL mortality rate on these days was only up by about 12 to 15. This peak in quite normal in any virus epidemic, since a nasty first mutation virus robs seriously sick people of around 21 days. This creates peaks followed by dips in the mortality figures, but averaged over 2 years the figures remain constant.

    Death is a horrible and unpalatable subject, so suddenly having it rammed into our faces has caused a lot of stress. If we all went to bed in the UK, thinking about the 1,500 people who had died in the previous 24 hours, few of us would sleep.

    PS, In the aftermath of all this panic, daily mortality is now running slightly below average.
    Perhaps a few of the measures, such as wearing masks on busy public transport and a degree of working from home SHOULD become part of our future lifestyle.
     
  6. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter


    Because Johnson and in particular Hancock abandoned a;; those residing in nursing homes and then when seriously ill and taken to hospital, were allowed to return to the nursing homes from whence they came without being tested or quarantined. Both are guilty of manslaughter of tens of thousands !!!
     
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  7. wilsjane

    wilsjane Senior Member

    10.000 is more than the total additional deaths in the UK during 2020. This year we are running slightly below average, confirming that the 2020 deaths were on average about 4 weeks early.

    On the subject of nursing homes, due to peoples age, deaths happen on a regular basis and tend to spike during EVERY cold and flue period.
    After hospital treatment, many elderly people die every day and following covid treatment all pathogenic bacteria was was eliminated. Sadly, following illness, elderly people have a high risk of death, despite their now natural virus immunities.

    The question is, where would YOU have placed these people discharged from hospital.? Keeping them in hospital wards would have been catastrophic, which was why more than 90% of surgery was put on hold.
    Logically, these people could have been returned to the care of their families, most of who should have been self isolating.
    Desperate care workers tried this approach and less than 2% of families responded. Surprise, surprise.
    How about charging the remaining 98% with manslaughter for their pathetic selfish ways.?????


    Hopefully, this new publication by the British Medical Journal will help you see things in perspective, since it is based on death rates per 100,000 people, rather than containing countless variables.


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  8. shanks59

    shanks59 Banned

    Tori party member are we.
     
  9. wilsjane

    wilsjane Senior Member

    Not at all, but at the moment they are the better of a bad bunch.

    Quite why people want to blame the government for a virus puzzles me.
    As I have pointed out several time, it was the media who distorted all the facts. I will give them the benefit of the doubt that they did it in blind ignorance and total lack of any medical knowledge.

    In the comment that you are replying to, what on earth made you think that I was a tory supporter.?????
     
  10. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter


    Oh really ??? scumbag Hancock diddling his recruited adviser whilst both are being paid by the taxpayer to actually WORK !!!

    Arrogant, ignorant, incompetent Boris knowing that Hancock wasn't up for the job he was being paid to do, hadn't got the cojones to sack him..

    Highly sensitive Defence documents taken from MOD found at a bus stop in Kent
    .

    Juat three recent issues !!! Then there's issue of awarding lucrative contracts to scumbag 'nasty party' accolytes outside of the normal procedures for the award of contracts costing the tax payers £Billions.

    Then there's Boris's (inappropriate) Royal yacht !!!

    I could go on and on, with enough evidence to hang each and every one of the Cabinet - but there is sufficient in what I have so far highlighted to show the current incumbents are nothing but arrogant cretins who are profiting from their incompetence at tax-payers expense.
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2021
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  11. Xyzlobomb

    Xyzlobomb Members

    None of the Tory party have been up for the job.
    We could have had a much much lower death rate.
    We are an island country. When we went into lockdown we should have closed the boarders to all but essential travel ( imports of food, medicine etc ). We would have had 3-4months full lockdown and then 2-3 months of limited freedom. We could have been living a virtual normal lifestyle with a minimum of deaths. Instead this incompetent government let's anyone from anywhere arrive and spread the infection.
    Look at New Zealand and Australia to see how we could have been.
    Anyone who thinks the government has done a good job needs their heads testing.
    The nightingale hospitals should have been used as the first place to take covid patients to allow the hospitals to run as normally as possible. Instead they hardly got used and most are mothballed or taken down.
    The only thing I could give them any credit for would be the speed of vaccinations.
    Boris has shown a total lack of leadership. He should have sacked Cummins and Hancock not let them resign. Show the country you are in control and not the bumbling bafoon you are.
     
  12. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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