Guncrazy USA

I think this is more accurate.

 

The Gandhi thing might have been posible in the 1960s Maybe by hell of chance in the early 70s .......... 80s and onward forget it.

 

is bad when im so tired i cant eve spell BUY the proper way.

 

even haha boy im fu....k

 

I feel like im aboard the Titanic . thats awfull!.

 

This is a theory I posted back in September 2006 it basically means that for many Americans their interest in guns is greater than their desire for a having a better society.

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“My thesis is that the problem with many American attitudes towards guns is that they seem to see them as a way of dealing with and also ignoring many of the social problems within their society. It also seems to me to led to a belief that threat and suppression is the best means of defence.

For example someone said that a gun protected them from such people as crackheads and gangbangers but the problem as I see it is this can lead to the mentality that there is therefore no need to deal with the societal problems that has lead to drug addiction and exclusion.

Just as (I’ve pointed out in another thread) Israel believes it can defend itself against its Muslim neighbours makes them seem to believe that they don’t have to deal with what is causing the hostility to them.

Many people have stopped asking themselves why things are the way they are and have fallen into the trap of believing that this is how things are. As long as you keep out of the bad parts of town and carry a gun ‘that stuff’ doesn’t need to be dealt with.

And the best way of keeping it under control and in its place is by the threat that comes from owning a gun.

And it seems to me that if people believe that the threat of violence works it is not much of a step for many to start thinking that the actual use of violence is acceptable.

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The false sense of power that guns can give people also seems to appears in the idea that they are a protection against government persecution.

As several people here have implied here at one time or another the holocaust may never have happened if the Jews had been armed.

The problem is that the German people had been taught the Jews were dangerous. So what if some of them had fired on the police that had come to take them away, do you think the German people would have seen this a justified and come to their defence or just seem it as proof the Jews were indeed dangerous and needed locking away?

Think about US history, did the Native American that fought back, get the support of the American citizenry? What if the US citizens of Japanese decent had resisted the unconstitutional internment imposed on them, and what if they had shot at the police would they have got general popular support? What about these hauled in front of McCarthy, would people rallied to them if they had refused to go before such a witch hunts and opened fire on those that came to take them?”

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is just a theory why did the germans did not attack the swiss?

 

why every other nation during the war mogering years avoided the swiss at all cost and the swiss dont have a army the population is the army.

 

why are swiss even today are trusted with a real assault rifle at home with spare ammo. you want pratice shooting the small goverment gives you all the ammo you want at the range for free.

 

considering the melting pot the U.S is and about give or take 60 to 80 million firearms owners "that means all types of guns" we could behave far worst. I give you some examples.

 

April 5, 1902 - Glasgow, Scotland; 25 killed and 517 injured when the West Stand at Ibrox Park collapses during an international between England and Scotland. The game ends in a 1-1 draw but is later stricken from official records.

March 9, 1946 - Bolton, England; 33 people are killed and over 400 injured when a wall collapses at Burden Park before an English FA Cup match between Bolton Wanderers and Stoke City. The collapse crushes fans together and sparks a stampede.

March 30, 1955 - Santiago, Chile; Six died when 70,000 tried to jam into the stadium for the finals of the South American soccer tournament. Argentina beat Chile 1-0.

May 24, 1964 - Lima, Peru; 318 people are killed and another 500 injured in riots at National Stadium after Argentina beats Peru in an Olympic qualifying match. The pandemonium breaks out when the referee disallows a Peruvian goal in the final two minutes.

 

June 23, 1968 - Buenos Aires, Argentina; 74 peopleare killed and over 150 injured following a first-division game between River Plate and Boca Juniors when fans trying to leave the stadium mistakenly head toward a closed exit and are crushed against the doors by other fans unaware of the closed passageway.

Jan. 2, 1971 - Glasgow, Scotland; 66 people are killed and 140 are injured when brriers in Ibrox Stadium collapse near the end of a match between Celtic and Rangers and fans are crushed. The incident occurs when fans leaving the stadium are met by a group trying to return after hearing that Rangers had scored an equalizer.

March 4, 1971 - Salvador, Brazil; A fight and a wild rush broke out in the grandstands, killing four and injuring 1,500.

Feb. 17, 1974 - Cairo, Egypt; Crowds attempting to enter a club game broke down barriers and 49 people were trampled to death.

 

Oct. 31, 1976 - Yaounde, Cameroon; After a penalty kick was awarded to Cameroon in a World Cup qualifying match vs. the Congo, the Congolese goalie attacked the Gambian referee. A fight broke out and the president of Cameroon, watching the game at home on television, sent in paratroopers by helicopter. Two bystanders died.

Dec. 6, 1976 - Port-au-Prince, Haiti; At a World Cup qualifier between Haiti and Cuba, the visitors scored and a Haitian fan set off a firecracker. Fans thought it was gunfire and panicked, knocking down a soldier, whose gun went off and killed a small boy and girl in the crowd. Further panic caused two people to be trampled to death, and one man died jumping over a wall. The soldier committed suicide.

Oct. 20, 1982 - Moscow; 340 are reportedly killed at a European Cup match between Soviet club Spartak Moscow and Haarlem of the Netherlands. Police are blamed for pushing fans down a narrow, icy staircase before the end of the match. When a late goal is scored, exiting fans try to re-enter the stadium and create a "human mincer." Moscow officials dispute the claims made in the publication of the Soviet Sports Committee, saying only 61 died and police did not push fans.

May 11, 1985 - Bradford, England; 56 people die when a cigarette stub ingnites a stadium's wooden terrace section and fire engulfs the structure < COULD HAD BEEN INTENTIONAL ARSON.

 

May 29, 1985 - Brussels, Belgium; 39 people are killed at the European Champions Cup Final at Heysel Stadium when riots beak out and a wall separating rival fans of England's Liverpool and Italy's Juventus of Turin collapses.

March 10, 1987 - Tripoli, Libya; 20 people are killed when paic-stricken fans flee knife-wielding ruffians and trigger the collapse of a wall. (This report conflicted with those from the Libyan state news agency JANA, which said two people were killed and 16 were hospitalized.)

March 12, 1988 - Katmandu, Nepal; At least 93 peole are killed and more than 100 injured when fans fleeing a hailstorm stampede into locked stadium exits.

April 15, 1989 - Sheffield, England; 95 people are crushed to death at an English FA Cup semifinal game between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest, when police open gates to alleviate crowding outside Hillsborough Stadium. The resulting rush of people onto the already filled terrace sections traps fans against riot control fences ringing the field.

Jan. 13, 1991 - Orkney, South Africa; at least 40 people are killed, most of them trampled or crushed along riot-control fences that surround the field, when fans panic and try to escape brawls that break out in the grandstan.

May 5, 1992 - Bastia, Corsica; 17 people are killed and 1,900 injured when a temporary grandstand, erected to increase the capacity of the stadium from 8,500 to 18,000, collapses before a French Cup semifinal match between four-time defending league champion Olympique Marseille and second-division Bastia.

June 16, 1996 - Lusaka, Zambia; Nine soccer fans were crushed to death and 78 others injured during a stampede following Zambia's victory over Sudan in a World Cup qualifying game.

 

July 14, 1996 - Tripoli, Libya; A riot at a soccer match involving a team controlled by a son of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi killed or injured up to 50 people. No exact figures were reported in the Libyan-controlled press.

Oct. 16, 1996 - Guatemala City; At least 78 people died and about 180 others were injured during a stampede at a stadium before a World Cup qualifying match between Guatemala and Costa Rica.

April 23, 2000 - Monrovia, Liberia; At least three reported dead and others injured as thousands of fans forced their way into an overcrowded stadium for a World Cup qualifier between Liberia and Chad.

July 9, 2000 - Harare, Zimbabwe; Twelve people die after a stampede at World Cup qualifier between South Africa and Zimbabwe.

April 11, 2001 - At least 43 people were killed at a football match between South Africa's two biggest teams. The stampede began as a crowd tried to get into Ellis Park stadium in Johannesburg to watch the match between Kaizer Chiefs and Orlando Pirates.

April 29, 2001 - Another stampede killed eight people in Lubumbashi, Congo.

May 6, 2001 - Several soccer fans were killed and hundreds others injured Sunday when part of the roof of a stadium grandstand caved in during a game in northeastern Iran. Two people died and a third was in critical condition at a local hospital, Asghar Samarbakhsh, deputy sports director for Mazandaran province, said. The number of dead was in dispute.

May 6, 2001 - Fighting broke out among fans at a match in Ivory Coast, killing one person and injuring 39.

May 9, 2001 - A stampede at a packed soccer match between two of Ghana's leading teams killed at least 100 people Wednesday night, hospital officials said. Accra's Hearts of Oak was leading Assante Kotoko 2-1 with five minutes left in the game when Assante supporters began throwing bottles and chairs onto the field, witnesses said. Police then fired tear gas, creating panic in the stands.

 

Seenow, I go tobed early and Imiss the good stuff...

That statement is going into my sig line along with my Chav/Nike knockoff. Thanks.

And a good portion of the world is scared of that fallacy. If it were fact, massacres like VTech wouldn't have happened. After the first one or two shootings someone would have put him down like the mad dog he was.

Parts of it are not. The problem is, the parts that are supposed to be safe (like a beautiful university in the central Appalachian range) turn deadly while I feel safe in my home in very dangerous South Baltimore. And the lack of logic makes it even more scarey.

Finally,

What makes you think W. hasn't been doing this for 6 years? What makes you think the world hasn't been laughing at the US since Clinton got his blowjob? What makes you think most Americans aren't aware of these facts? And most importantly, what makes you think the intelligent among us care? Much like you Brits, we recognize the hypocrasy and have no pride in the lies we're fed.

 

Decline

is just a theory why did the germans did not attack the swiss?

"During World War II, detailed invasion plans were drawn up by the Germans,[1] but Switzerland was never attacked. Switzerland was able to remain independent through a combination of military deterrence, economic concessions to Germany, and good fortune as larger events during the war delayed an invasion"
Wikipedia

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why every other nation during the war mogering years avoided the swiss at all cost and the swiss dont have a army the population is the army.

Depends on what period you are talking about?

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why are swiss even today are trusted with a real assault rifle at home with spare ammo. you want pratice shooting the small goverment gives you all the ammo you want at the range for free.

This is a red herring, Swiss society is not American society, the question should be – why is Swiss society seemingly so much more peaceful than American society. From what I’ve read and heard the Swiss don’t feel threatened they leave their guns at home under lock and key, they don’t feel they need them for protection them from others in their society. Why is it that so many Americans do?
You might look at Swiss social attitudes, policies and programmes and how they differ from those of the US.

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considering the melting pot the U.S is and about give or take 60 to 80 million firearms owners "that means all types of guns" we could behave far worst. I give you some examples.

Your examples seem be incidences of accidents and riots from around the world, so I’m not sure what you point is?

I mean there have been accidents and riots in US history what have these to do with the subject?

 

#1 not riots or accidents even tho a few only seems to are. soocer games i can tell you did not bother to read them . # 2 they did not attack the swiss becouse they knew the high price to pay. # 3 they are not peacefull they just have better brains.

 

Charles Joseph Whitman (June 24, 1941 – August 1, 1966) was a student at the University of Texas at Austin and a Marine, who is known for having ascended The University's 27-story tower on August 1, 1966 and shot at passersby in the city and on the campus below, having killed his mother and his wife the night before. In all Whitman killed 15 people and wounded 31 others before he was shot dead by Austin police

 

Did americans started this anti gun bullshit in August 1 1966? did the media pounded the anti gun drums in August 1 1966?