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Thanks Shane. I wasn't sure whether it was a typo, otherwise I would have looked it up on Wiki, too. Thanks for the link, and sorry to everyone for the slight off-course in topic.

 

You are so misguided i dont know where to begin. You asked about my education?

Anarchism is libertarianism doofus.

Think libertarianism with a little "l" not libertarianism as in the Libertarian party of the U.S.A.

Either you dont know what you are talking about or you believe that political history and current events begins and ends with U.S. politics.

Libertarianism isn't third way or neo-nazi, you are thinking of fascism.

fascism, socialism, and anarchism can seem confusing to someone who gets there ppolitics from myspace but there is a distinction, i promise.

Proudhon, Bakunin, Tucker, and Rand are about as far away from Nazis as you can imagine.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

is a better definition

 

Right wing as it cometh

 

Sorry for posting on this matter again, but I followed the link Shane gave, and I know how Wikipedia is a moderately reliable pool of information, but I get the following message:

Is there any particular reason why an article in Wiki such as this one doesn't contain any reliable references and, if possible, can I find a more reliable definition of what a libertarian actually is?

 

again, not listening.

it depends on what libertarian school of thougght you are talking about.

that's like comparing a stalinist with a trot with a democrat with a castro.

that only works for people who get their political views from myspace, cnn, and school text books.

LibertarianismSchools of thought
Agorism
Anarcho-capitalism
Geolibertarianism
Green libertarianism
Right-Libertarianism
Left-Libertarianism
Minarchism
Neolibertarianism
Paleolibertarianism
Progressive libertarianism
Libertarian Republican


Origins
Austrian School
Chicago School
Classical liberalism
Individualist anarchism


Ideas
Civil liberties
Free markets
Free trade
Laissez-faire
Liberty
Individualism
Non-aggression
Private property
Self-ownership


Key issues
Economic views
History
Parties
Theories of law
Views of rights
Criticism of libertarianism




Hate to be the one to tell you this guy, but anarchists are libertarians.

Unless of course you are talking about anarcho-communism or syndaclism, or you are just a socialist who likes using "anarch" when describing yourself because you really dont want to get rid of the state, you just want a better one...

 

I don't want to sound funny, but that's the Amish isn't it?

 

kind of but not really.

libertarians, anarchists, objectivist and the like tend to be socially liberal with most issues(minus the state of course), and unless you are talking about the greens or the primitivists we like tech(thought i fear robots, it's a personal thing).

it's more of a "live and let live" kind of mind frame.

i would rather talk to someone about the dangers of smoking or not wearing their seatbelt than to punish them for either one.

 

Sorry to sound rude, but everytime someone asks for a little information around here, they are either presented with data, or statistics that are equal in length to the Yellow Pages of North and South Dakota It will take so long to go through all those posted links that by the time I finished reading them I would have forgotten what my original question was.

Isn't there a one page explanation of what a libertarian is? Or, if it's allowed, a forum link? Once again, sorry for the off topic, but I need to understand the connection/difference between libertarian and NRA member.

 

libertarians say anything it takes to get their view across,
with such a wide amalgamation of people it hardly justifies a footnote let alone many pages in Wikipedia

Libertarians are mainly NRA clansmen with a liar and denial mentality

 

good luck.

you might as well ask for 2 sentences that perfectly describe socialism.

i'll try to put it best though:

Libertarianism(the philosophical thread, not the us.s political party) places "liberty" aka freedom, above all other values.

do as though wilt kind of thing.

we dont like the government, corporations, or any other collective body telling us where to smoke, what to smoke, how much we can smoke. We should be able to smoke anywhere, anytime, anyplace unless doing so infringes on the liberty aka freedom of someone else.

now, substitute the word "smoke" with anything you can think of.

shoot
suck
fuck
eat
say
shit

doesnt matter, as long as it's not infringing on your liberty then it's okay.

 

again your knowledge is limited to shallow u.s. political parties.

libertarianism is along the same thread as individualist anarchism, objectivism and classical liberalism.

open a fucking book.

 

Thanks, Shane. That doesn't sound bad to me. So, essentially, a libertarian is a liberal with a few minor differences, let's call it the smallprint. They believe in social freedoms. That's right, isn't it?

 

maybe, but there is a line and it's distinct.

i think liberal and it makes me think of large cumbersome collectives telling me what to do and think even when what i do or think does not effect their collective at all.

ie.

seatbelts.

a libertarian would say it's stupid to not wear a seatbelt, but it doesn't affect me and you've made a personal decision to not where one. not my place.

a liberal would say, not wearing you seatbelt is stupid and wrong. we should find a way to force people to wear seatbelts. they'll thank us after.

gay marriage

a libertarian would say i dont want to marry a man, but it doesn't affect me and you've made a personal decision to marry a man. not my place wether i agree with it or not.

a liberal would say, marrying a man isn't just okay it is right and discouragement of the practice is wrong. we should find a way to force people to recognize gay marriage and celebrate it. they'll thank us after.

you get the idea?

libertariansim is about self-ownership and respect for the individual.
liberalism is about collective-ownership and obiedence to the collective.

while on some issues they might find agreement(war on grugs, war in iraq) on others they are bound to disagree(gun control being one of those).

kind of like the difference between socialism and anarchism.

althought when you are talking about people there is always a little crossover...

 

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=libertarianism+right+wing&btnG=Search&meta=

go anywhere in that google search and find where people great thinkers are reading many books and none of them are libertarian crap. everyone knows libertarians are right wing we all read the books then laughed then realised the nutcases were serious then actively hate it and read books which oppose it. Sorry sir but I belive libertarianism is just a lot of paranoid old farts with a no real heavy weight intellectuals joining their ranks certainly none on a par with anarchist intellectuals. None even on a par with socialists or communists

so you are sociopaths

You seem to adhere to the right to buy guns but not the right to ban them - you adhere to the right to sell cocain but not someones right to stop you selling it toi their kids - silly person bad choice of argument

 

you didnt even look at the sites you brought up with that search did you?

third from top:

The Political Compass - Why Libertarianism is not Right Wing

 

its by a libertarian nutcase

 

and your political leanings?

anarchist?
socialist?
fascist?

 

i think we are getting off topic a bit.

 

To be completely honest, There is a certain celebrity that comes with being able to 'Pip The Ace" at 500 yards. And a certain respect. Now, JUST because I can do a thing, it doesn't follow that I MUST do that thing.