Gun ownership itself is a slight mental illness

Again we get the silly slogans rather than thought

 

This discussion is fruitless. The libtards want to take our guns away - sometimes openly, and sometimes couched in compromise-sounding language of baby steps like "better" background checks and stuff. Some even claim to be "for" the second amendment while proposing it only apply to a select few rather than the general population. When they refuse to admit there's underlying causes to violence they expose their true agenda. There seems to be no logic in the world to counteract their ignorance, emotions, and jealousy. There's always some stupid retort attacking supporters and/or some strawman. Enough.
It's like they're thinking, "we don't want to reduce violence, we just want to level the playing field for when the big conflict between libtards and sensible people comes to a head." So we must fight on for our second amendment rights and no compromises! Fire away!

 

Lol

 

Trudg

This sounds more like you want discussion to stop because you haven’t got any good arguments.

Which sounds a lot like fear and paranoia

What are these underlying causes to violence and how does ease of access to guns help in any violent situation?

But if your position was logical it could be defended logically and you seem unable to do that.

And I’m sorry but it seems to be you who come across as ill-informed and emotional

There are valid retorts because you position seems so weak and full of holes

That sounds like a threat, it sounds like fear, and it comes across as paranoia.

How do you think a post like that helps your argument?

You just come across as someone that shouldn't be allowed near scissors let alone a firearm

 

This is childish stuff I expect from the left. You're stooping.

And "no compromises"? Really?

 

Then there's this part
What the hell

It's hilarious you think like this but yet you lump yourself in with "the sensible people"

 

Basically dude couldnt defend some of his views, backed himself into a corner, and is now lashing out with ad hominems

It's a shame because we were having a reasonable discussion for a brief time there

 

It's so damn cringey.

He's basically saying one of the reasons he owns guns is because he believes one day there will be a violent conflict and he'll have to use his guns to kill liberals

But he's the sensible one

 

I just prefer to draw a line at calling people names in this particular forum. And that includes whole swaths of people.

I've been accused of wanting to "go after people's guns" by suggesting that ammunition be serialized and tracked. So I realize how emotional any issue of rights can become when some want to gut it and others want to push the envelope. And this applies to any of the declared rights we claim in the US.

I personally think that any attempt to obliterate any of our rights should be seen with great suspicion. Since it appears so many gun regulations aren't being effectively enforced, maybe that's where to begin as opposed to initiating even more regulations to be forgotten by bureaucrats.

 

Like what?

Not being antagonistic, I am genuinely curious

 

I'm just saying that we have regulations that are not fully implemented. Maybe it's time to review them as opposed to piling on new ones. Once we have the closet cleaned out, then we see if anything new should be implemented.

On the issue of rights, yes, regardless of which right we're speaking of, any attempt to diminish their effect in terms of people's freedoms, is suspicious to me. It took a long time for the bill of rights to live up to the inalienable ideal. Knowing our government though, I doubt any alteration of rights will receive a fast track process.

 

I thought so too.Till you abandoned it. I was the last to opine and you never responded to that, just piled on with some hard-liners questioning my sincerity and such -- because what?
You chose not to continue the discussion and resorted to the ad-hominem tactic yourself first. And now this? How can we talk?

You're right -- I'll go with "liberals with dumb ideas", better? Goals with no systems to reach them.

I'm afraid it's down to no compromises now. They refuse to see good points and are only happy if theirs are acknowledged. It's a one way street with the lefties, their way or no way. Hell, not one watched the videos I posted for their edification and consideration. What kind of compromise is that when they flat out refuse to put themselves in others' shoes even briefly? It feels like trying to teach a pig to sing. There's no conversation to be had from what I can see, sorry to say.

 

Then we fight. *pumps shotgun*

 

Sure there is. I get lamented for it regularly around here. I apply my opinion to a matter and if I don't answer leading questions or weird interpretations of what I have posted, I'm failing to defend my position.

Too often I find folks who are all about "winning" or being "right" at any cost, even bullying or deriding the person they don't agree with in an effort to "win" through tactics as opposed to reality. It's about shutting someone down instead of actually proving them wrong. I suspect some keep a score sheet of some sort. Seems like it anyway.

So I am familiar with your predicament.

 

What are you talking about? I said you weren't being clear about something and rather than clarifying it, you accused me of playing dumb (for the 3rd or 4th time in this thread) and said you were bowing out

I've responded to every point you've made to me except for your thoughts on dna testing and brain scans for everyone so we can figure out who has violent tendencies and contain then
Because that was just too ridiculous to address lol
But other than that I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say I didnt respond

 

I searched for "federal gun regulations not being enforced" and got 7 reasonable links including Vox, USA Today, CNN, BBC, even the NRA!

The internet is so amazing!

 

I think Meagain, like myself, assumed you already had some in mind and could pinpoint them for the sake of discussion, since you did bring it up

 

Neither of us are in a position to claim we know what the future holds in technology - we can only surmise. I was throwing out ideas that the future might hold - how do I clarify that? I'm as clueless as you in predicting murder tendencies with certainty but who's to say we won't get there? And you make fun of me for suggesting the possibility, can you see why I don't think that's legit?

Here ya go:
LMGTFY