Gun ownership itself is a slight mental illness

Discussion in 'Politics' started by unfocusedanakin, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. Meliai

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    Oh my god lol. I'm not offended, i just think you're a bit of a presumptuous ass is all. And it's comical.
    I do use tools. I am a bit of a hobbyist furniture builder, just bookcases and end tables, easy stuff.

    but I still think a semi automatic would make a better murder weapon than my table saw.
     
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  2. Meliai

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    Still waiting g for the stats on death by screwdriver versus death by gun by the way.
    Cant wait to see what you come up with
     
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  3. soulcompromise

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    I think death by tool is probably less prevalent than death by gun. And we don't have the need for security from tools; we need it from guns. I hate this
     
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  4. Meliai

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    Oh he knows it's much, much less prevalent. He was just hoping no one would call him on his dishonesty
     
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  5. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Not if it jams. Or if loaded wrong, etc.

    These guys have demonstrated a lack of proficiency in their sick attacks (except the Las Vegas one). One proficient concealed carrier could have put a quick end to the terror reigns; imagine if the target areas had several.

    Glad to hear of your woodworking endeavors. You could be like a kid in a candy store in my shop.

    Of course I'm a pompous ass. Ever notice how anyone who drives faster than you is a maniac, and those slower are idiots?
     
  6. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Come on you're smarter than that! The point was to try to convey that firearms are tools, not which tools are most suitable to kill people with. Please. That's obvious.
     
  7. soulcompromise

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    so you are smart.

    why do you ignore the statistics about guns and gun deaths and suicides and all that stuff?

    For me, it's not always convenient to be intelligent or educated about something. I can remember a dinner where someone was saying something about "Asians" and I felt like I should point out that there are so many different variations of that. It's not very specific to or even pc to say "Asians". I think that's what it was. And I ended up looking to everyone else like I was nit picking even though I was right. I apologized half-a-dozen times and the conversation moved on to some other topic. The point being although correct, inconvenient. No one cared and there I was beating the horse...

    I wouldn't have it any other way. Maybe it's cause I'm egotistical or selfish or something.
     
  8. MeAgain

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    What exactly are you talking about?

    Who ever said function follows style in regards to gun design?

    An argument from authority, or a deferment to authority, is perfectly valid when the authority is legitimate.
    Would you consult any old Joe walking down the street about your failing eyesight, or would you consult an Ophthalmologist?
     
  9. lode

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    But have you tried cutting your lumber with an AR-15?

    I'm almost certain that would sell here...
     
  10. Meliai

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    Cutting lumber with an AR-15 is my God-given right, damnit
     
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  11. OlderWaterBrother

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    I will if you point out where I said it was written in the amendment.
     
  12. MeAgain

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    Sure, here's your quote to Unfocused in regards to gun ownership being written into the Constitution:
    The only place that I'm aware of gun ownership being written into the Constitution is in the 2nd Amendment.
    Am I wrong? Were you referring to some other part of the Constitution?

    Next you say:
    When people use the term "the government" and the 2nd, they are usually talking about the constitutional government, in this case the U.S. government which the 2nd pertains to.

    So I asked you, are you saying that the 2nd Amendment was put into the Constitution to allow "the people" to overthrow their own government?
    Simple question.
     
  13. OlderWaterBrother

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    This is your reply to ************ when he said; "Does "assault weapon" still mean "scary-looking gun"?"

    So, since you posted this definition let's use it.
    Assault weapon is a term used in the United States to define some types of firearms.[1] The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions but usually includes semi-automatic rifles with a detachable magazine, a pistol grip and sometimes other features such as a vertical forward grip, flash suppressor or barrel shroud.[1][2] Some firearms are specified by name.[3]

    The salient features seem to be semi-automatic rifles with a detachable magazine, a pistol grip. OK.
    This is a Ruger 10/22:

    View attachment 213452 (I'm unsure why the picture didn't show up but you can see it below in post 620)
    It is a 22 Caliber semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine and a pistol grip and so it must be an assault weapon but it doesn't look like one to me.

    How about it, does it look like an assault weapon to you?
     
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  14. OlderWaterBrother

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    Yes that is basically what I said but seemly you want me to point out where that is specifically written in the Constitution and I never said it was.
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

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    Yes, a person can be emotional and logical at the same time but it doesn't happen often and depending on how emotional the person has become, logic can quickly go out the window.

    Strong emotions and logic are often antithetical.
     
  16. MeAgain

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    Yes, I know the definition of an assault weapon.

    As far as the Ruger 10/22, your link didn't work. But I looked it up. Apparently it comes in a variety of configurations. Here's one with a variant of a pistol grip:
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    As far as what it looks like, who cares. The question is doesn't it meet the legal criteria of an assault weapon in any jurisdictions? I don't know. Maybe you could look it up and let me know.
     
  17. MeAgain

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    So are you telling me it isn't in the Constitution?
    Do you believe guns are allowed so as to overthrow the U.S. government?
     
  18. granite45

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    OMG..this is absurd. If I see one more reference to the 2nd amendment I’m going to puke. Clearly the good old boys never intentended for the current state of gun based insanity to be a protected “right”. What about the right to “life liberty and the pursuit of happiness”? If you want to see the emotional impact of gun violence on human beings, I suggest you watch the Montreal based show 19-2 about a fictional school shooting. In my lifetime I have owned many guns for hunting and carried a gun when protection from large predators was a concern. Never had a “need” tho for assault weapons and pistols designed to kill human beings.
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

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  20. OlderWaterBrother

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    Gun ownership is not in the Constitution but placed in the Bill of Rights, amendments to the Constitution.

    Yes, I believe that the Authors of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were strongly influenced by their recent dealings with their former Government and felt the need to put in writing that the US Government should not be allowed to remove weapons from the people so that the people would have recourse if that Government should become abusive, in the future, like their former Government. I see no reason why the Authors of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights would take time consider "hunting" while forming a a new Government.
     

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